Another primer thread... along with some good news!

[CQB45ACP]

local stores, we have tons of guns shops and big box

Didn’t figure that in Seattle area.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Yeah, I know that’s how it is with us, too. And gas prices, I won’t get started.
Anyway like I said from the start, expensive but available beats cheap but unobtainium. Any day.

I agree. At least you have choice at that point—eat or shoot. Shoot is the correct answer.

 

[Mark_Mark]

Didn’t figure that in Seattle area.

Oh yeah man, in Seattle we have 1 gun store with tons of Guns. But in a 30 mile radius, off my head, 20+ shops, and 2 that are geared towards reloaders.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I was just looking at prices of plain jane 45ACP 230gr on largish mainstream sites like Brownells, Midsouth & Ammoman. (This is one of my unscientific gauges on the likely state of primer prices and availability and their likely trajectory.)

Anyway, prices are down to around .60/round for Winchester white box, S&B, PMC, with no quantity limits. That’s darned good. I’m thinking pre-pandemic they were around .50/round and not too long ago .75/round wasn’t uncommon and there were quantity limits.

I don't care at all where a buddy got ammo for .10 or an LGS had it for .07 or a gun show for this or that. The gauge is online big or biggish retailers.

My point is simply when ammo goes down and is readily available primers aren’t far behind.

 

[LiveLife]

So, it looks like a light at the end of the tunnel.

Maybe just a crack......but yea, seems like it may be about to turn.....

When 22LR were hovering around $50/500 shipped, many posted due to Covid/supply chain/inflation of materials/transportation fuel cost etc. that they doubted whether price would drop below $40/500 shipped.

Well, like the previous shortage of 2013 where price dropped to below $30/500, 22LR pricing fell below $40/500 and hovering in the $30s - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-8#post-12381679

If this is any indication, I think things are headed in the right direction and I will exercise patience and wait for prices to fall further before I restock ammunition/components.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I was just looking at prices of plain jane 45ACP 230gr on largish mainstream sites like Brownells, Midsouth & Ammoman. (This is one of my unscientific gauges on the likely state of primer prices and availability and their likely trajectory.)

Anyway, prices are down to around .60/round for Winchester white box, S&B, PMC, with no quantity limits. That’s darned good. I’m thinking pre-pandemic they were around .50/round and not too long ago .75/round wasn’t uncommon and there were quantity limits.

I don't care at all where a buddy got ammo for .10 or an LGS had it for .07 or a gun show for this or that. The gauge is online big or biggish retailers.

My point is simply when ammo goes down and is readily available primers aren’t far behind.

I predict 1 month and the primers will flood the market

 

[Soonerpesek]

Since this is my first reloading drought, I've been learning a lot. Paying high prices here and there compared to when I started loading ~4 years ago. Reminds me of the Clinton era gun/magazine ban. I certainly won't get caught short again.

This is the first "real" drought for a lot of us.....
I got kinda lucky in the fact that I was able to purchase a good bit of primers during a sale right before the pandemic really started, there was no forethought involved - just idiotic luck...
I have listened to the advice from the "elders" of this forum, and will properly prepare when the time is right.
Albeit the exception of a few, this forum has an abundant amount of members that are truly willing to help out us "newbies" if we just listen and heed the advice....
To those I say Thank You...............

 

[AJC1]

My expectation when components come back the current pinned where are the components thread will go away and a here's the current sales on primers stock up dummy thread takes its place...

 

[Soonerpesek]

stock up dummy thread takes

..............................................!!

 

[CQB45ACP]

I predict 1 month and the primers will flood the market

Well, duh!! That’s when the new factories will be in full production.

 

[Mark_Mark]

My expectation when components come back the current pinned where are the components thread will go away and a here's the current sales on primers stock up dummy thread takes its place...

I hope that thread comes very soon!!!

I want to stock up for 30 years worth

 

[CQB45ACP]

When 22LR were hovering around $50/500 shipped, many posted due to Covid/supply chain/inflation of materials/transportation fuel cost etc. that they doubted whether price would drop below $40/500 shipped.

Well, like the previous shortage of 2013 where price dropped to below $30/500, 22LR pricing fell below $40/500 and hovering in the $30s - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...t-shipped-pricing.902560/page-8#post-12381679

If this is any indication, I think things are headed in the right direction and I will exercise patience and wait for prices to fall further before I restock ammunition/components.

I was curious as to when I last bought primers and how much I paid, that is, when the shortage began for me personally. I just looked and it was January 2021 and $32/1000 for CCI large pistol.

That’s just before Cabela’s stopped taking internet orders for primers and powder. (We had a thread or two mentioning it if you recall.) Cabela’s had become a hit or miss proposition for a couple months before that though. I’m pretty sure I also bought some from Powder Valley around that time too and I had them delivered to a close by CVS.

Since the gun show stopped well before that due to reactions to the pandemic, online was really, really my only source.

So, to repeat, the shortage began in earnest for me in January 2021. Heck it’s only been a year and a half long and already it’s loosening up.

 

[Mark_Mark]

I was curious as to when I last bought primers and how much I paid, that is, when the shortage began for me personally. I just looked and it was January 2021 and $32/1000 for CCI large pistol.

That’s just before Cabela’s stopped taking internet orders for primers and powder. (We had a thread or two mentioning it if you recall.) Cabela’s had become a hit or miss proposition for a couple months before that though. I’m pretty sure I also bought some from Powder Valley around that time too and I had them delivered to a close by CVS.

Since the gun show stopped well before that due to reactions to the pandemic, online was really, really my only source.

So, to repeat, the shortage began in earnest for me in January 2021. Heck it’s only been a year and a half long and already it’s loosening up.
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looks like bricks of Gold! right before the shortage, the cabelas guy told me to not worry about primers and buy powder. So that’s what I did… FAIL on ME

 

[Walkalong]

My buddy Jeff started reloading about 1 1/2 years ago, just rifle, then about two months ago he decides he wants to load 10MM. I gave him 1K LP printers, I have plenty.

The time will come to stock up, and while I don't know exactly when or exactly what the "stock up" price is going to be, I can say impatience and buying too much at inflated prices will only prolong the hurt.

Be patient and disciplined, just buy what you really need short term.

 

[warnerwh]

I noticed Targetsportsusa dropped the price for a case pf primers to $550 after it being $600 for a long time. Prices are moving in the right direction, just wish prices would drop faster.

 

[CQB45ACP]

looks like bricks of Gold! right before the shortage, the cabelas guy told me to not worry about primers and buy powder. So that’s what I did… FAIL on ME

Those are just the ones I wrote the date on.

I’m fine with my component supplies for a good while but that won’t stop me from really stocking up once availability increases and prices decrease.

 

[ballman6711]

I plan on stocking up a bit more as well once prices drop and level off. I have plenty of bullets and powder, but am a bit low on SPP and LPP. And I just bought my first brick of LRP since I plan to start loading 7.62x39 for an old Colt AR. Still have to get dies and a shell holder, but I'm not in any panic.

chris

 

[Bush Pilot]

I predict 1 month and the primers will flood the market

I've been hearing they'll be less than $20/1000 too.

 

[Walkalong]

That would be nice, but don't bet on it that soon...........

 

[rdnktrkr]

I've been hearing they'll be less than $20/1000 too.

My last primer purchases was $100 a case of 5000, I bought LRP, SRP, and SPP, I already had enough LPP priced at $15.95. I'm still using primers priced at $9.99 and powder with a sale price of $7.99 (last pound of this). I've bought some newer powder and cringe at having to pay $35 a pound (shoots about the same as my older powder). If powder drops back to $20-25 a pound I will probably stock back up but at $35-55 a pound I'll just purchase what I need.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I've been hearing they'll be less than $20/1000 too.

I’m afraid you’re hearing things it’s simply unknowable at this point

 

[JFrank]

Scheels.. is the place I’ve purchased my last batch of primers Friday night.
cci br- 130.00 a brick > almost out
CCI 450 - 89.00 ish > plenty in stock
CCI 400 - 85.00 ish > plenty in stock

 

[Bush Pilot]

I’m afraid you’re hearing things it’s simply unknowable at this point

There's a good chance I was being sarcastic about the availability and price of primers these days.

 

[CQB45ACP]

There's a good chance I was being sarcastic about the availability and price of primers these days.

And a better chance I’m a little slow on the uptake

 

[2ndtimer]

I predict 1 month and the primers will flood the market

I will bet you a sleeve (100) primers of your choice from my inventory that they will still be difficult to find a month from now. Maybe by 2023, we might see them become available in quantity, hopefully with more attractive prices.