Anti-War Protests Target Wounded at Army Hospital

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Anti-War Protests Target Wounded at Army Hospital
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
August 25, 2005

See Marc Morano's Video Report

Washington (CNSNews.com) - The Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C., the current home of hundreds of wounded veterans from the war in Iraq, has been the target of weekly anti-war demonstrations since March. The protesters hold signs that read "Maimed for Lies" and "Enlist here and die for Halliburton."

The anti-war demonstrators, who obtain their protest permits from the Washington, D.C., police department, position themselves directly in front of the main entrance to the Army Medical Center, which is located in northwest D.C., about five miles from the White House.

Among the props used by the protesters are mock caskets, lined up on the sidewalk to represent the death toll in Iraq.

Code Pink Women for Peace, one of the groups backing anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan's vigil outside President Bush's ranch in Crawford Texas, organizes the protests at Walter Reed as well.

Some conservative supporters of the war call the protests, which have been ignored by the establishment media, "shameless" and have taken to conducting counter-demonstrations at Walter Reed. "[The anti-war protesters] should not be demonstrating at a hospital. A hospital is not a suitable location for an anti-war demonstration," said Bill Floyd of the D.C. chapter of FreeRepublic.com, who stood across the street from the anti-war demonstrators on Aug. 19.

"I believe they are tormenting our wounded soldiers and they should just leave them alone," Floyd added.

According to the Walter Reed Army Medical Center, nearly 4,000 individuals involved in the Iraq war were treated at the facility as of March of this year, 1,050 of whom were wounded in battle.

One anti-war protester, who would only identify himself as "Luke," told Cybercast News Service that "the price of George Bush's foreign policy can be seen right here at Walter Reed -- young men who returned from Iraq with their bodies shattered after George Bush sent them to war for a lie."

Luke accused President Bush of "exploiting American soldiers" while "oppressing the other nations of earth." The president "has killed far too many people," he added.

On Aug. 19, as the anti-war protesters chanted slogans such as "George Bush kills American soldiers," Cybercast News Service observed several wounded war veterans entering and departing the gates of Walter Reed, some with prosthetic limbs. Most of the demonstrations have been held on Friday evenings, a popular time for the family members of wounded soldiers to visit the hospital.

But the anti-war activists were unapologetic when asked whether they considered such signs as "Maimed for Lies" offensive to wounded war veterans and their families.

"I am more offended by the fact that many were maimed for life. I am more offended by the fact that they (wounded veterans) have been kept out of the news," said Kevin McCarron, a member of the anti-war group Veterans for Peace.

Kevin Pannell, who was recently treated at Walter Reed and had both legs amputated after an ambush grenade attack near Baghdad in 2004, considers the presence of the anti-war protesters in front of the hospital "distasteful."

When he was a patient at the hospital, Pannell said he initially tried to ignore the anti-war activists camped out in front of Walter Reed, until witnessing something that enraged him.

"We went by there one day and I drove by and [the anti-war protesters] had a bunch of flag-draped coffins laid out on the sidewalk. That, I thought, was probably the most distasteful thing I had ever seen. Ever," Pannell, a member of the Army's First Cavalry Division, told Cybercast News Service.

"You know that 95 percent of the guys in the hospital bed lost guys whenever they got hurt and survivors' guilt is the worst thing you can deal with," Pannell said, adding that other veterans recovering from wounds at Walter Reed share his resentment for the anti-war protesters.

"We don't like them and we don't like the fact that they can hang their signs and stuff on the fence at Walter Reed," he said. "[The wounded veterans] are there to recuperate. Once they get out in the real world, then they can start seeing that stuff (anti-war protests). I mean Walter Reed is a sheltered environment and it needs to stay that way."

McCarron said he dislikes having to resort to such controversial tactics, "but this stuff can't be hidden," he insisted. "The real cost of this war cannot be kept from the American public."

The anti-war protesters claim their presence at the hospital is necessary to publicize the arrivals of newly wounded soldiers from Iraq, who the protesters allege are being smuggled in at night by the Pentagon to avoid media scrutiny. The protesters also argue that the military hospital is the most appropriate place for the demonstrations and that the vigils are designed to ultimately help the wounded veterans.

"If I went to war and lost a leg and then found out from my hospital bed that I had been lied to, that the weapons I was sent to search for never existed, that the person who sent me to war had no plan but to exploit me, exploit the country I was sent to, I would be pretty angry," Luke told Cybercast News Service.

"I would want people to do something about it and if I couldn't get out of my bed and protest myself, I would want someone else to do it in my name," he added.

The conservative counter-demonstrators carry signs reading "Troops out when the job's done," "Thank you U.S. Armed Forces" and "Shameless Pinkos go home." Many wear the orange T-shirts reading "Club G'itmo" that are marketed by conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh.

"[The anti-war protesters] have no business here. If they want to protest policy, they should be at the Capitol, they should be at the White House," said Nina Burke. "The only reason for being here is to talk to [the] wounded and [anti-war protests are] just completely inappropriate."

Albion Wilde concurred, arguing that "it's very easy to pick on the families of the wounded. They are very vulnerable ... I feel disgusted.

"[The anti-war protesters] are really showing an enormous lack of respect for just everything that America has always stood for. They lost the election and now they are really, really angry and so they are picking on the wrong people," Wilde added.

At least one anti-war demonstrator conceded that standing out in front of a military hospital where wounded soldiers and their families are entering and exiting, might not be appropriate.

"Maybe there is a better place to have a protest. I am not sure," said a man holding a sign reading "Stop the War," who declined to be identified.

But Luke and the other anti-war protesters dismissed the message of the counter demonstrators. "We know most of the George Bush supporters have never spent a day in uniform, have never been closer to a battlefield than seeing it through the television screen," Luke said.

Code Pink, the group organizing the anti-war demonstrations in front of the Walter Reed hospital, has a controversial leader and affiliations. As Cybercast News Service previously reported, Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin has expressed support for the Communist Viet Cong in Vietnam and the Nicaraguan Sandinistas.

In 2001, Benjamin was asked about anti-war protesters sympathizing with nations considered to be enemies of U.S. foreign policy, including the Viet Cong and the Sandinistas. "There's no one who will talk about how the other side is good," she reportedly told the San Francisco Chronicle.

Benjamin has also reportedly praised the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro. Benjamin told the San Francisco Chronicle that her visit to Cuba in the 1980s revealed to her a great country. "It seem[ed] like I died and went to heaven," she reportedly said.
 
I find it ironic that their form of 'help' is to utterly and completely disrespect the needs of those inside the hospital.
 
It isn't really ironic because offering "help" to the troops is not on their little minds at all........

hillbilly
 
"Code Pink, the group organizing the anti-war demonstrations in front of the Walter Reed hospital, has a controversial leader and affiliations. As Cybercast News Service previously reported, Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin has expressed support for the Communist Viet Cong in Vietnam and the Nicaraguan Sandinistas.

In 2001, Benjamin was asked about anti-war protesters sympathizing with nations considered to be enemies of U.S. foreign policy, including the Viet Cong and the Sandinistas. "There's no one who will talk about how the other side is good," she reportedly told the San Francisco Chronicle.

Benjamin has also reportedly praised the Cuban regime of Fidel Castro. Benjamin told the San Francisco Chronicle that her visit to Cuba in the 1980s revealed to her a great country. "It seem[ed] like I died and went to heaven," she reportedly said."

Ahh yes, showing their true colors there. I wouldn't mind Democrats so much if they weren't all communists.
 
Couldn't make it through the article without wanting to :barf:. The video is even worse, seeing the protesters actually try to vocalize their 'oh no, we're helping the troops' message.

I'm too full of hate right now to write anything about this that would be THR. I was in DC not two weeks ago. Had I known this was going on while I was there I'd probably be in jail for my reaction to it.
 
Its their rights, and its legal
While true, it still doesn't make it right. Its been said before, but just because they have the right to do it, doesn't mean that they should be so distasteful as to do it in front of a hospital, or at funerals, etc.
 
Once again, those who scream loudest about rights, are clueless about the responsibilities and obligations that come with those rights.

Probably because those responsibilities and obligations are cloaked under the phrase 'common decency'.

A family who is trying to deal with the injury of a loved one does not need this crap in their faces; mothers, wives and children at their most vulnerable do not need a sign protesting the war waved in their faces.

These ... things ... have the right to protest the war.

When one exercises that right in front of a military hospital, for the express purpose of targeting the helpless and shattered, then that right is followed by the responsibility to take any resulting ***-whipping like a man.

LawDog
 
As is typical, the freaks and loons of the wacko far-left have absolutely no concept of the damage they are causing their own side here.

Here's where they are really, really, really screwing up on this one.

These morons are typically either leftover burnouts from the 1960s and 1970s Anti-Vietnam protests, or lots of much younger folks.

The 1970s rejects want to recapture their "glory days" and don't know what else to do.

The younger folks want to create their own version of the "glory days," only they don't have the historical knowledge to realize that the "glory days' of the Anti-Vietnam War protests took 15 years to happen.

There was no "tipping point" against the war in Vietnam until 15 years of increasing US involvement, and around 50,000 American KIAs.

These seriously deluded folks really think that all that has to happen for a "tipping point" against the Iraq War to happen is for a couple hundred of their shaggy, unwashed ilk to show up somewhere with some signs and some slogans and VOILA!!! Instant Tipping Point!

The frizzy-haired loser named "Luke" in the video segment above is a great example of the type.

If anything, they are creating a backlash against themselves.

Here's the other thing they aren't considering at all.

Large numbers of the US public consider the Iraq War to be a legitimate part of the War Against Terror, that we finally woke up to on 9-11.

For example, I think this way. As I've said many times on this board, I really think that this is World War IV here.

Iraq was, for all kinds of reaons, a logical, legitimate front of that war.

You may not agree with me at all on this point, but my contention is not about if my point is valid or not.

My contention here is that a very sizeable portion of the American public thinks the same way, too.

In that regard, there simply is no popular uprising against the War in Iraq as there was in the last days of Vietnam.

In other words, these loony lefties are completely ignoring the context of 9-11 here.

In the Vietnam War protest era, nobody seriously believed that the Vietcong or the NVA would lauch a Tet Offensive in downtown New York or Chicago or Los Angeles.

But most people, at least those with working fontal lobes, can easily envision another massive attack inside the US carried out by the very same suicide-bombing, head-chopping, camel-humping jihadist dirt bags we are fighting against in Iraq.

And that's precisely why these antiwar protesters will get no support at all except from the wooly-headed freaks that inhabit places like DU.

hillbilly
 
It should not matter to any THR members whether the Iraq war is right or wrong when it comes to this "Pink Mommies" activity.

They are wrong on so many levels that it's impossible to know where to start.

I remember all of the anti-war protests from the 1960's, but I do not remember anything this revolting. This is even more despicable than the bombings done by the Weather Underground and other fruitcake groups.

If there's a silver lining to any of this, it will be that the folks in the "red states" will recoil against this, and the anti-war movement will have delivered themselves a PR nightmare.

It's not by coincidence that these "Pink Mommies" and the anti-gun groups use dead and wounded to advance their cause: they're ghouls. And I would bet you dollars to donuts that they're involved in both causes.
 
So quick to promote your own rights, but twice as quick to denote the rights of others because they arent morally right.

When the rights of others are put away becuase someone doesnt consider it moral, your rights are soon next. Sound familiar? Just like the 2nd amendment. Bliss ninnys take away your rights because you dont 'need' guns, just like they dont 'need' to protest in front of hospitals.

While i dont agree with what they are doing, and i sure as heck would be pissed too, im also smart enough to know that as soon as we say somebody cant do something becuase it doesnt conform to my views, is also athe time that everybody loses.

When anybodys rights is taken away, everybody loses.
 
KriegHund, if I understand your post correctly, you're saying that previous posters advocate taking away the Pink Mommie's right to protest.

I didn't see that in any of the prior posts. All I saw was condemnation of their actions, while recognizing their right to be despicable.

Big difference.
 
Eff their "rights". I could really give a crap about their "rights".
I'm with Lawdog. These idiot, scumbag, military hating, (boils down to Bush hating) Code Pinko creeps could use a good smacking around.
 
In any case, if they want to protest let them. Its their rights, and its legal.
Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.

To gather for the express purpose of harassing, wounded soldiers to advance your personal opinion is disgraceful. It is "bully" behavior that would not otherwise be tolerated. Civilized people understand that there is a time and place for everything. They understand that not everything is appropriate all the time and that some good sense and manners should almost always drive behavior.

KreigHund, it appears that you support the rights of ignorant people to unleash their venom on injured soldiers and their families, yet you seem to think we should not condemn their behavior. Why is it they are entitled to express themselves in an obnoxious manner, yet we should not criticize them in a private forum?
 
:fire:

What ticks me off is these people that are too ignorant to understand that the best and pretty much only defense we've got is a good offense. They're just another bunch of fools that think if we give the terrorist types a hug they'll get all happy and leave us alone. It just makes me sick knowing I have to live and ukltimately try to SURVIVE side by side with such morons. I hate war, always have, and I know full well the toll this war is taking on our people but the tradeoff is a LOT LESS of those who would gleefully harm us and our country walking the earth and that is some consolation IMHO. Yea, a nice visit by them to comfort some of the wounded rather than belittling their efforts in front of the hospital would have been a bit more "American" of them. At least the American type I'D prefer to be.

My heartfelt thanks to all those serving and sacrificing for our freedom and safety.

I couldn't even finish the article, sorry. :barf:
 
The phrase "aiding and abetting the enemy" comes to my mind. This is just as much a psychop war as anything else and they are certainly not helping the cause. I'm sure our enemies revel in scenes like that, it's exactly what they want. IMHO they're counting on it.

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I am disgusted by this. I hope the hippie scumbag protestors get their asses handed to them by a recovered soldier. They can protest in the capitol, but taking advantage of wounded soldiers who are there to defend your country is horrible. Even if people don't like the war in Iraq they should in most cases support your troops. Blaming bush is assinine, since he isn't the one digging IED's or shooting at your guys. I hate the anti war types because they're heartless towards the concerns of the soldiers, the lefty writers over here have called Australian troops "fair targets" for just protecting japanese engineers.
 
Yeah, "they support the troops" my foot! If they really supported the troops, they would put down their silly little protest signs and go in and feed a soldier who lost his hands, or read to the blind.

I have no issue with people and their opinions of the war, but take the protest to the capital or the White House where it belongs. I well remember my service during Viet Nam where the attitude went from protesting the government to taking it out on the soldiers-which took years to correct. Every damned movie that came out showed returning vets as some kind of crazed baby killer-THANK YOU HOLLYWOOD! :fire: I did not have issues with the way people protested the war back then, until some of them started flying the NLF flag and abusing soldiers..........

This is not, as some have suggested a muzzling of free speech. It is nothing more than a very thinly disguised hatred of the military. Fine-if you hate the military, go protest at the Pentagon, or maybe try that stunt in the middle of Camp Lejune or Fort Bragg :evil: Bet your head and your rear end meet in very close proximity.....
 
I have no issue with people and their opinions of the war, but take the protest to the capital or the White House where it belongs.
+1

maybe try that stunt in the middle of Camp Lejune or Fort Bragg Bet your head and your rear end meet in very close proximity.....

I'd PAY to see THAT! :evil:
 
maybe try that stunt in the middle of Camp Lejune or Fort Bragg Bet your head and your rear end meet in very close proximity.....


I agree...I'd pay to see that myself... :D


I think it's in rather poor taste to protest at a funeral or at a hospital...The families of the deceased and those trying to recover from their wounds have enough to think about without being forced to deal with anti war people to boot......
 
Any wounded patients at Walter Reed should get a free pass to beat the crap out of any of the protesters that they could.
 
Any wounded patients at Walter Reed should get a free pass to beat the crap out of any of the protesters that they could.
And anybody in a uniform should get a free pass to lend a hand in that effort.
"We know most of the George Bush supporters have never spent a day in uniform, have never been closer to a battlefield than seeing it through the television screen," Luke said.
Not in my experience. Most of the counter-protest types I have met are military, recently out, families of soldiers on deployment, and WWII/Korea/Vietnam vets who have the time to do this sort of thing. Too bad there aren't more servicemembers who show up to these sorts of things, but they're busy saving the world, so y'know.

I find it funny that this coward won't say his full name. When I have gone to counter-protest idiots, I gave the newspaper everything but my shoe size (would've, but they didn't ask).
 
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