anyone else feel uncomfy around people who look like "gun nuts?"

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For a surprising number of gun owners, cosplay is a big part of it. Same as with large numbers of motorcycle owners. There are those, of course, who combine the two. I laugh at them, but don't consider them a problem until they really start believing that clothes make the man.
 
I laugh at anyone who goes about in public dressed up in costume. You have the right to dress up like a biker, cowboy, SEEL, or any other member of The Village People you wish. I have the right to regard you as an object of amusement and derision for going out in public to play your little dress up games.

Newsflash: unless you walk around in the nude, you go about in public dressed in a "costume". Your "costume" may be Yuppie, Family Man, Regular Joe, etc., but it's a "costume" the same as all the others you mentioned. The fact that it makes you feel better about yourself to regard those who look different than you with derision is both pathetic and hilarious.

C'mon guys - loosen up. People who judge a book by it's cover usually turn out to be illiterate.
 
C'mon guys - loosen up. People who judge a book by it's cover usually turn out to be illiterate.

And, yet, that generally only applies from one side of the fence, so to speak.

Let me put it this way: I would guess that 90-98% of us here on THR feel that our society has gotten so very sensitive to accusations of "profiling" and stereotyping that we've become ridiculous in our attempts to avoid it.

Our unwillingness to "judge a book by its cover" is what leads airport security to do random searches and extra screenings on old ladies in wheel-chairs, moms with infants, and other persons who are HIGHLY unlikely to try and help their fellow passengers meet their maker today. The same issue gets our LEOs a black eye when they investigate too deeply folks who match a certain stereotypical demographic and happen to be wearing very specific colors/clothing -- that's racial profiling, remember, and that is wrong.

It is a very complicated issue. We say we don't want anyone to judge us for what we wear, but every outfit does convey a certain message. Some of those messages are very important to read correctly, too. Reading people's character, social position or conditioning, abilities, and intents from their appearance is a valid survival skill. It isn't foolproof and it is often misleading (intentionally so, usually), but to say we should "not judge a book by its cover" is to try and deaden a sense that your mind has taken great pains to develop.

That being true, it is silly to pretend that how we dress and present ourselves out in public does not send a message about ourselves and people (that others will assume are) like us. In a parallel manner, it would be silly to think that what we choose to wear will not encourage other people to associate us with elements of society that we might -- or might not -- want to be associated with.

A lot of folks have posted to say, "I live out in the sticks and all my friends and neighbors wear fatigue pants while they're hunting, working on the truck, or mowing the yard." Yeah, that's fine. That's normal. That's utilitarian and unobjectionable. Others kind of seem to be saying, "I went to a wedding in surplus fatigues and boots, and they thought I was some kind of white-supremacist reactionary!" Um, well, DUH. In this case you have chosen, whether you admit it to yourself or us here, to wear attire that will get you noticed and will get you profiled as something.

It's everyone's right to dress as they please, but for the sake of this discussion at least, try to be honest (with yourself and the group) about why you want to attract notice with whichever costume you choose to wear.

-Sam
 
You're really reaching there, Karl. You're perfectly free to consider me pathetic, if you wish; but not all clothes are costumes. To try to say otherwise is a willful distortion of what the words mean in modern English.
 
I wear military cargo pants because I'm kinda chunky,and jeans bind in places I'd rather not mention on a family forum.When I DO wear jeans,they're ''relaxed fit'',for the same reason.The military pants are considerably cheaper,and offer a full range of movement.
 
Only if their conversations become too "gun nutty" - then I can get very uncomfortable. I suspect we really don't appreciate the generousity of the internet that allows us to judge the thoughts of a person before we are confronted with their physical looks. I also suspect that if the members here were all gathered together for a photo session, we would probably be a motley looking crew.

Besides, if we don't want 'em on our side, I am pretty sure that the Clintons and Bradys would find a place for them.
 
No Joe... EVERY mode of dress can easily be considered "costume". Which is why, when discussing different cultures, we refer to "national costume"...

Now, if you (or anyone else) wish to judge someone by the costume they're wearing, that's fine. Just remember, that judgement can often be mistaken. And keep in mind, those you're laughing at are often laughing back at you... ;)
 
Tell you what, Karl; leathers don't make a biker. Nor do cammies and combat boots make a fighting man. Nor does having a Stetson turn a man into a cowboy.
There's a lot of grown men out there doing the equivalent of wearing Superman underoos and jumping off the bed. As I said upthread, the insurance salesman down the street is funny dressing up in biker drag to ride his Harley, 'til he starts to believe his little outfit means he really is a bad boy. He's free to laff his *** off at me, though I'll hazard I look a lot less ridiculous in generic suburban white guy clothes than he does in his leather bar get-up.
 
Ummm... I think that was more aimed at me, not Karl.

And you're right... you might look less ridiculous in "generic suburban white guy clothes" than I do in my riding gear... or my kilt... or a suit... or hippie wear...

I'm still gonna think you look funny in your dockers and polo shirt... :p
 
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We are really sitting here fussing over CLOTHES.
Penis check please.
Yeah, I expect that the women of THR have been laughing their butts off tonight.

With good reason. :D
 
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You're really reaching there, Karl. You're perfectly free to consider me pathetic, if you wish; but not all clothes are costumes. To try to say otherwise is a willful distortion of what the words mean in modern English.

OK - so if (according to you at least) "not all clothes are costumes", then which clothes (according to you at least) are costumes?

See what I'm getting at here? No, of course you don't.

LR Inc. is dead on.

How should one dress to go flyfishing?
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Those that put on the "quiet professional" persona generally aren't.
They're the ones that make me nervous.

What's the "quiet professional" persona? I always figure they are the types you just don't notice. They just blend right in and seem, well, average.
 
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