Enthusiast/collector or gun nut?

[PlayboyPenguin]

Back off.

Show the harm. The specific, individual harm of me or Oleg Volk owning guns: how is that like rape, child abuse, murder or theft, which have in each case an Actual Victim.
Your feelings about such matters are immaterial. What matters is whether or not harm is done. Not postulated possible potential harm; not some harm you made up and feel sure will happen: actual real-world harm.

Earlier, you commented on the "feeling of power" you got from discharging a firearm; now you liken gun ownership to criminal acts.

You're way past psuedo-intellectualism, Bud, and you appear to be projecting your own issues of guilt and shame onto gun-owners. Might want to look into that before you go tearing into others.

--H

What's the matter? You are the one that said some people like to impose their ideals of limits on other people like it was a bad thing. Can you not stand by what you said?

 

[Herself]

What's the matter? You are the one that said some people like to impose their ideals of limits on other people like it was a bad thing. Can you not stand by what you said?

The standard is actual harm, not personal opinion. It is a very bad idea to use one's opinion as a basis to try to set limits on free adults. This is why we have a government of laws rather than of men: to attempt to remove personal prejudice.

In the instant case, at issue is your personal prejudice against other folks being armed. Precisely what other folks, you are inconsistent about -- and yet you do not see this as a problem. This rather strongly suggests narcissism: you do not see anyone other than yourself as being a real person.

Might be best to just leave you here with the mirror, Bud.

--Herself

 

[Mad Chemist]

So, you could have few restrictions on gun ownership and just punish severely those who use a gun in a crime.

Sounds like sensible gun control to me.

 

[cyber_sammy]

I do not feel the the people I see standing at the bus stop every day arguing with themselves, or the crack addicts walking down the street, or the alcoholics staggering down to the liquor store, or the "pissed off for no reason" guys I pass that are just screaming at people in the city street that they do not even know are not competent to carry a weapon and some measures need to be in place to see to it that they do not get one. My problem is with the people on this board that use terms like "every man's right" which are way to broad and why we keep losing ground as gun owners. it makes it sound like "give everyone a gun and just lock up the ones that slaughter you family".

yah background checks really do matter especially with guns involved.
i do have my own background check running on my shop because dont want any garbage running aroung me. see http://www.unlimited-backgroundcheck.com but ofcourse with limitation person using it should be resposible enough not to just run and digging records of anybody and using it againts them

 

[Mad Chemist]

In OR you can call the OSP line and run a check on anyone you plan to sell a gun to. The fee is $9. If I don't know the buyer well, I run the check and they pay a little extra. Running a background check is voluntary for private sales. I don't think I could support mandatory checks. If there was absolutely no registry only a criminal backround check, and the system wasfree, I might support it.

JH