Anyone else going through a weird anti-tactical phase?

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Just people who don't show an interest in learning how to use it.
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That one hit home. Guess that be me.

Not anti black rifle or tactical. But I do prefer more traditional arms. Have nothing against them, but not really my cup of tea. There are just so many dollars that go for firearms, ammunition, and accessories and I have chosen a non-black rifle path for the most part. Would like to get an AR at some point, just I have other guns that I'd like to try out first and never seem to get to them.
 
I dont hunt anymore(but do have nice hunting guns), so I lean heavily towards the black guns, HK, AR etc........ya know for the 2 legged critters that roam the wilds of the US ;)

and heck I just love blowing stuff up...nothing make me happier than dropping a nice fir tree(that I planted by hand 30 years ago) with my HK 91 from the hip :D

But handguns, I have never been biased, I love semis as well as revolvers, have little use for single action's nor 1911's. I prefer USP's/P7's and S&W revolvers for carry, I love older Hk's for shooting.

but love my many 22's both long guns(bolt, pumps, semis) and handguns of all sorts
 
Not anti black rifle or tactical. But I do prefer more traditional arms. Have nothing against them, but not really my cup of tea.
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Don't tell the Fudds, but the skills useful for shooting an EBR pretty much carry over to shooting a wood-stocked gun as well. Offhand, supported, sitting/squatting/rice paddy prone, and regular prone.

I may shoot semi-auto EBR's most of the time, but those skills carry over to bolt action hunting rifles just fine.

All I'm saying is this:

Whatever your chosen gear, know how to use it. Know how to shoot it, know what your holdovers are for given distances in at least 100 yard increments, know how to move with it, reload it, and get into position with it, and how to make hits in an environment where you're under pressure. Don't just shoot off the bench.
 
I've picked up examples of the types of EBR that intrigued me. Now I've moved on. Most were picked up used and were covered with tactical accessories. These have been de-tactical-ized, with their inappropriate accessories going to guns that could better utilize them.

Small-caliber carbines just don't need sniper-quality scopes, folding stocks, AND bi-pods.
 
Frankly, I'm just at a bit of a loss over why people deride black guns. If they aren't your thing, that's fine. But to make claims that they have little or no practical use is quite ridiculous.
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Justin--I hope you get that is not the purpose for my thread; I just have really come to appreciate a more traditional look. I am also re-evaluating tactifying for no reason other than looks. I have frankensteined nearly every type of shotgun & SKS / AK I have owned over the years; most of the mods had little to do with actually improving function.

I am now selling some of these monsters & replacing them with guns I actually enjoy looking at & shooting. I have put enough rounds down range to have several locations qualify as a superfund site for lead contamination, and I agree with your frustration aimed at pretenders & posers.

I also agree that some mods are very beneficial & important for a specific application, so the 1300 next to the bed will still have a tac light; albeit with some really pretty walnut stocks I picked up on e-bay. Interested in a slightly used speedfeed??
 
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I agree with earlier posts that its wrong for any gun-snobbery when it comes to someone's personal choices for what they view as desirable for accesories, colors and materials that said guns are made of. For myself, Budget leads the way (smaller than I'd like, I have to ration), then from follows function. I need maximum versatility for the few I have. I'd be happy to be at a point where all budget money fro guns goes solely into ammo. No more magazines, no more accessories, just what I need to get the job done, be it hunting, target shooting, or HD, +1000. All my guns need to be capable of all three. That means lots of research before buying, and lots of compromises after. The end result is rather interesting, but everything seems to work, and I agree that less is more. But that's just me. Everyone is different and has different priorities.
 
We must always be on guard men! Anti-tactical is the first warning sign, the first symptom if you will that liberals are are putting something in our drinking water designed to destroy the testosterone in our system. Yes, they are trying to turn the conservative manly men we know we are into effeminate gun-fearing girlymen.

Quick, the only cure is to rush out, buy tacticool accessories for a vicious black weapon, all the while inhaling Hoppes #9 fumes from a liberal splash on our flannel shirt collar.
 
I dont know what the fuss is all about if you dont like the ar's dont buy them. I dont own one but i carried one for 18 1/2 years of the 24 i served and i would not want to go to war without it. Now i am happy with my 1911 and mod 66 2 1/2 and my 30/30 1894 and 336"s and browning light 12 but i am old school......whatever floats you boat .....go for it..........................;)
 
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I believe "Tactical" can be defined two ways. "Tacticool" and "practical". Many of today's tactical weapons and accessories are extremely dependable and highly efficient when used in the platform they were designed for.....and then again, there's a lot of unpractical bling that's only reason for existence is to make the owner look like Rambo.

There's a old biker phase that comes to mind......"chrome don't get you home."
 
My home favorite home defense is my M44.

It is something about having a firearm, a pointy steel pike, and blunt instrument at the same time.

For a $100 dollars I achieved my home-made weight set; swing the M44 around for a few minutes and get a workout.

I am not opposed to a wood stock Belgian FN

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I got my first rifle at age 12 back in the early sixties, It was a Winchester 94, 30-30. It was used back then and I killed my first deer with it that same year. I trained on an M16 in the early seventies and wasn't impressed with that little toy rifle. I guess I've not changed much since then. I like a rifle that has a kick to it. So, my old 30-30 is still my coolest rifle and I have more Ruger and S&W revolvers than pistols.

My only tactical rifle is an SKS that I restored to it's original beauty. There's not one bit of plastic on it - that I can think of.

I've always been a real cowboy at heart and most of the time in reality also. So, I want a rifle that will reach out an touch whatever I aim it at. My big game rifles are a Savage .300 WSM, a Ruger M77 .25-06 and a Remington 788, .308 and my 30-30 Winchester 94, my 30-30 Marlin 336 and that SKS. There are no POP guns in the entire herd.
 
Gee whiz this is like a 12-step group
I thought I was all alone
I have Ar's and mg's but have not bought anymore for 2 years years now
When ammo went stupid something went click and a change occurred.
I guess I too sorta went anti tactical and began again where I was 30 years ago
with black powder replica's and have bought 2 original 1858 Remington's this year.
I really do not see myself acquiring anymore black rifles and feel as several of ya'll that wood and blue steel have a special charm all their own.
Heck might be selling some of the tactical/mgs and going back to basics-who knows?
 
As far as looks go I absolutely prefer real nice bluing and some top grade walnut furniture. The thing I like about the ARs and other EBRs is the modular aspect of them. It's easy to slap on parts and modify them for all sorts of uses. They are like Legos for big kids. You don't have to be a gunsmith to put one together or make big changes in seconds...sometimes with no tools at all. I won't be drooling over them any time soon...they aren't artwork, but they make good tools. All that being said, I still prefer a fairly non-tacticool AR. I think simple is still better.
 
Didn't like EBRs at first but they grew on me, although I still don like the rails that you can attach stuff too. Too military and non functional for me, i'd have basicaly no use for them. I prefer the longer barreled ones with the handguard thats smooth metal like varmint guns. You also don't have to worry about water as much or trying to keep the wood perfect on the wood guns.
Also most guns seemed to have military roots so this is just the future Garand basically.
Blued metal and wood guns look a lot nicer in my opinion but new plastic rifles are easier. IMO
 
I believe "Tactical" can be defined two ways. "Tacticool" and "practical". Many of today's tactical weapons and accessories are extremely dependable and highly efficient when used in the platform they were designed for.....and then again, there's a lot of unpractical bling that's only reason for existence is to make the owner look like Rambo.
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I get practical, and I carry practical. I guess I like that word better. I posted this thread after seeing a classic mall ninja type at a gun show last week. I hate to profile, but this was a little man in his mid 40's, could not have been 5' tall, 90 lbs soaking wet, carrying an AR with more crap mounted than anything I have ever seen. We have all seen the funny posters of over-stuffed accessories, and this was close to it.

Worse yet, he had no tag, no sign, and walked in with my son & I. He was not selling, he had not just purchased it, he was just walking around with it, no doubt beaming with pride enduced by the rest of us staring in awe at the majesty of his creation, grenade launcher & all. He could have likely parted that hidious contraption out for a fortune. Just silly IMHO.
 
I'm more on a practical kick as of late (one has to be whilst on a budget). Some of the things I see for sale in catalogs in the name of "tactical" are pretty stupid and unrealistic.
 
Since I'm neither a LEO, military man, nor hunter, and -luckily- live in peaceful environment, I only use my guns for recreational purposes and never had any need nor use for anything "tactical".
Moreover, most "tactical" stuff looks ugly to me, so none of my guns feature any.
 
My "tactical" guns all have a purpose. I carry a Sig .45. My blackout mossberg is what i pick up at 3:00 a.m. to check out that suspicious noise. Now, when I'm "impulse" buying, it's always a springfield trapdoor, or a sharps carbine. I'm not opposed to tactical guns as a rule, but honestly they rarely serve a functional purpose for the added expense. My mini-14 with the wood stock and 30 round mags is just as effective and fun as my best friends custom built AR-15, and was $500 less.
 
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