Anyone sense the furor dying down?
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ZO6Vettever
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It looks like some on line dealers are having more guns to offer in the last week or so but ammo still seems to be sold out.
robsc
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Sellers make money by kissing a dollar bill goodbye. Then telling the dollar to ` go get your brother, go get your brother`.
ejfalvo
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Not where I live (NJ). I went to the local indoor range yesterday before I headed to the airport to pick my son up. I mistakenly thought that Fri afternoon would be quiet. NOPE. 5 deep at the counter, all waving their "handgun purchase" form and pointing to a gun in the case. Shooting range was jammed with first timers - thankless job those range officers.
Shot my 100 rounds and left. The owner did come up and apologize to me (a regular) for having to wait while they helped others. No shortage of selection at this store.
Shot my 100 rounds and left. The owner did come up and apologize to me (a regular) for having to wait while they helped others. No shortage of selection at this store.
wally
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No slowdown here.
This morning I went to the Pasadena High Caliber gun show. One of the smaller shows, but they have free parking. Got there 15-20 minutes earlier than I usually would pre-election. Saw a long line, but the parking lot was about like it used to be so I parked and stood in line figuring they just hadn't opened the doors yet. Had I arrived 10 minutes later, I'd have just turned around and gone home!
Quickly got too crowded to enjoy and prices were mostly still high. One vendor had AR stripped lowers $165 for DoubleStar, $170 for YHM, $180 for RRA, and $199 for S&W. I picked up a YHM as I wanted one not marked "5.56" it was marked "Cal: Multi". Lots of other over priced AR lowers stripped or not, at other tables.
Best find for me was a pair of 30 round 5.45x39 AK-74 metal lined black plastic for $40! Also found a pair of Saiga .308 Surefire 20 rounders for $30 each. Unconverted SAIGA prices were pretty high $575-600 for the .308 and shotguns, $400-450 for the .223 & 7.62x39, but they were pretty easy to find.
So overall glad I hung in there, but Olympic ARs that were $650 pre-election were $950, Romanian AKs that were $400 pre-election were $650-750 -- ridiculous, but they didn't seem to be flying off the shelves either. Only the higher end guns had modest price increases SIG 556 and MSAR were only up about 10% from October. Anything marked Colt was absurd, with the exception of a transferable full auto CAR M16 Colt for $12.5K didn't seen to show a lot of wear -- out of my price range, but seemed a good price for what I see advertised in Shotgun news.
Long lines at any table selling ammo. Prices had me just walk on by, but seemed to be selling well.
--wally.
This morning I went to the Pasadena High Caliber gun show. One of the smaller shows, but they have free parking. Got there 15-20 minutes earlier than I usually would pre-election. Saw a long line, but the parking lot was about like it used to be so I parked and stood in line figuring they just hadn't opened the doors yet. Had I arrived 10 minutes later, I'd have just turned around and gone home!
Quickly got too crowded to enjoy and prices were mostly still high. One vendor had AR stripped lowers $165 for DoubleStar, $170 for YHM, $180 for RRA, and $199 for S&W. I picked up a YHM as I wanted one not marked "5.56" it was marked "Cal: Multi". Lots of other over priced AR lowers stripped or not, at other tables.
Best find for me was a pair of 30 round 5.45x39 AK-74 metal lined black plastic for $40! Also found a pair of Saiga .308 Surefire 20 rounders for $30 each. Unconverted SAIGA prices were pretty high $575-600 for the .308 and shotguns, $400-450 for the .223 & 7.62x39, but they were pretty easy to find.
So overall glad I hung in there, but Olympic ARs that were $650 pre-election were $950, Romanian AKs that were $400 pre-election were $650-750 -- ridiculous, but they didn't seem to be flying off the shelves either. Only the higher end guns had modest price increases SIG 556 and MSAR were only up about 10% from October. Anything marked Colt was absurd, with the exception of a transferable full auto CAR M16 Colt for $12.5K didn't seen to show a lot of wear -- out of my price range, but seemed a good price for what I see advertised in Shotgun news.
Long lines at any table selling ammo. Prices had me just walk on by, but seemed to be selling well.
--wally.
I think we may see some times of lesser demand than others, but it won't be the same till after 2012, and depending on what happens in Nov 2011 it may well get worse, we may all be criminals.
The manufacturers are in a quandary, what if we buy machine tools, and space and guns, or ammo, or both are ultimately outlawed. They can't afford the risk making those types of investments with no idea of what's coming.
It's tough to find all that I want , but I can still find a little here and there, I won't complain about it, cause it won't do any good. I find a 100 primers here and a hundred there, I'd rather find a brick, but you all know that's getting rarer and rarer.
I just keep making my stops and picking up a little here and a little there, I leave things on back-order at several web site places such a Midway, or Brownells, or Powder Valley, and if I get really desperate I will ask here if anyone wants to part with a little of what they have.
I am not going to let it upset me, I'm going to do what I can and be thankful that I am not yet a criminal.
The manufacturers are in a quandary, what if we buy machine tools, and space and guns, or ammo, or both are ultimately outlawed. They can't afford the risk making those types of investments with no idea of what's coming.
It's tough to find all that I want , but I can still find a little here and there, I won't complain about it, cause it won't do any good. I find a 100 primers here and a hundred there, I'd rather find a brick, but you all know that's getting rarer and rarer.
I just keep making my stops and picking up a little here and a little there, I leave things on back-order at several web site places such a Midway, or Brownells, or Powder Valley, and if I get really desperate I will ask here if anyone wants to part with a little of what they have.
I am not going to let it upset me, I'm going to do what I can and be thankful that I am not yet a criminal.
MatthewVanitas
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I don't think there are enough potential buyers to sustain this demand for three more years. If all manufacturers of AR parts keep working extra shifts (like some are now) to churn out gear, there will be a certain saturation point where the folks who wanted one have one, the folks who want 10 lowers to stash have 10, and the few guys who want 50 lowers have their 50. People just won't indefinitely hoard until lowers spill out of their closet onto their bedroom floor.
I predict that a lot of gun companies are going to hit hard time around early 2010, even without (or especially without) any clear trend towards an AWB. The used EBR market will probably expand notably by then, and it'll be cheaper to buy a new lower still in the wrap from some guy on an online classifiedad (who has 15 lowers and a Visa bill due) than it is to buy one new.
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hi,
i am from ct. continental machine tool is the next town over and they mfg. colt, rra, stag and a few others. lately, i have seen cases of rra then stag lowers on sale at hoffmans in newington ct. they average around 170. each. today-they had 2 cases of stags in stock. i bought a rra for 110. in october (same price for the stag). factory guns are not as prevalent and they go fast.
hi,
i am from ct. continental machine tool is the next town over and they mfg. colt, rra, stag and a few others. lately, i have seen cases of rra then stag lowers on sale at hoffmans in newington ct. they average around 170. each. today-they had 2 cases of stags in stock. i bought a rra for 110. in october (same price for the stag). factory guns are not as prevalent and they go fast.
Phydeaux642
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It's definitely a seller's market where I'm at. It doesn't matter that ammo is nearly impossible to get, the shops can't get guns in fast enough. I went into a local big box sporting goods store today and was talking to the guy working in the range and he was telling me that he had sold about five thousand rounds of 9mm defensive ammo in just a few minutes because there was nothing else to shoot. Twenty bucks a box of twenty to plink.
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