Critter183
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I'm the same way. That's why I shoot my daughter's AP74 in cast bullet matches.
Anything a lever action can do, a pump or semi-auto can do better" true or false?
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I'm the same way. That's why I shoot my daughter's AP74 in cast bullet matches.
NailGun
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False
Lever action only when in the saddle. Bolt guns are too inconvenient to cycle, and an autoloader is too dangerous (IMHO) for shooting off horse back.
NailGun
Lever action only when in the saddle. Bolt guns are too inconvenient to cycle, and an autoloader is too dangerous (IMHO) for shooting off horse back.
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Sistema1927
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Since this one hasn't been answered yet concerning CAS:
Nope, SASS rules require that the main match rifle must shoot a pistol caliber round.
Isn't a .30-40 Krag allowed?
Nope, SASS rules require that the main match rifle must shoot a pistol caliber round.
AStone
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Ah, now this is an interesting twist,
<said the guy looking hard at lever guns,
destined to buy a 336 after months of contemplating bolts...>
<said the guy looking hard at lever guns,
destined to buy a 336 after months of contemplating bolts...>
115grfmj
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FALSE!!!!!
Lever guns are ado it all kind of arm kind of like a jack of all trades.
PLus lets not forget the big plus (with pistol caliber any way)........
Ammo comes in 50 Round boxes
..Cheaper too..
Lever guns are ado it all kind of arm kind of like a jack of all trades.
PLus lets not forget the big plus (with pistol caliber any way)........
Ammo comes in 50 Round boxes
..Cheaper too..
Semis are fastest and probably second overall in accuracy.
Pumps are next fastest but generally have to have larger chambers (a significant hindrance to accuracy) due to the lack of mechanical advantage during case extraction. The pump means that benchresting the gun is sort of a pain--you have to disturb the gun between each shot to operate the action.
Levers are third in terms of speed and are generally somewhere between pumps and semis for accuracy. The lever makes shooting from a bench or prone more difficult. They are very thin and tend to be most compact overall.
Bolts tend to be most accurate but are the slowest to cycle. They're also easiest to shoot from a rest.
Pumps are next fastest but generally have to have larger chambers (a significant hindrance to accuracy) due to the lack of mechanical advantage during case extraction. The pump means that benchresting the gun is sort of a pain--you have to disturb the gun between each shot to operate the action.
Levers are third in terms of speed and are generally somewhere between pumps and semis for accuracy. The lever makes shooting from a bench or prone more difficult. They are very thin and tend to be most compact overall.
Bolts tend to be most accurate but are the slowest to cycle. They're also easiest to shoot from a rest.
AStone
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JohnKSa,
Nice comparison. Very succinct.
Nem
Nice comparison. Very succinct.
Nem
db_tanker
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I don't think this has been mentioned yet...
Has anyone thought to ask what the deer, hog or other critter on the recieving end of that rifle thinks?
I do believe that a 30 WCF 150 gr will kill a white-tail just as dead as a 308 or 30-06 165 gr...and that piggie will not go too far with a 170 gr. stamp out of any firearm...at least, here in Texas...
Now agreed, a bolt rifle will outshoot a lever or semi or pump when it comes to shooting from a bench.
apples and oranges.
Some of you guys are throwing lemons in from the sourness of the posts, though. lol
D
Has anyone thought to ask what the deer, hog or other critter on the recieving end of that rifle thinks?
I do believe that a 30 WCF 150 gr will kill a white-tail just as dead as a 308 or 30-06 165 gr...and that piggie will not go too far with a 170 gr. stamp out of any firearm...at least, here in Texas...
Now agreed, a bolt rifle will outshoot a lever or semi or pump when it comes to shooting from a bench.
apples and oranges.
Some of you guys are throwing lemons in from the sourness of the posts, though.
lol D
COMBO.RICO
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This thread was very informative reading. Four years into the future now, I thought I'd "bump" it to bring attention to it, in case anyone might benefit from reading it as I did. Thank you gentlemen for your input into this subject.
Leverguns are cheaper (thinking a used Marlin 30-30 here).
In many cases, a lever action does where other guns would not do because they could not be afforded. So it does that better.
FWIW, yeah, I know about Mosin Nagants. But they're not common around here at all. They do turn up but they're not really used as general purpose/hunting rifles as much as they're toys for rednecks with an extra $100 or for milsurp shooters/collectors.
And I disagree about a semi-auto being more likely to malfunction than a lever. Some of the most reliable designs in history are semi-auto (or even select fire). The AK and the FAL come to mind as extremely reliable semi-auto rifles that many of us are familiar with. Sad to say, but these days you can't really compare the two. On one hand you have semi-auto rifles that are built in some cases from brand new OEM military parts kits. They were designed to work well for years of service in the hands of semi-trained people who are going to do stupid things with them occasionally. They handle it (even the maligned M-16 stands up well to run of the mill stupidity in my experience). On the other side, you have a lever action that was built knowing that the end user will likely not shoot more than thousand rounds through it in the entire life of the rifle.
Which do you think is going to be the most reliable over the longest period of time?
In many cases, a lever action does where other guns would not do because they could not be afforded. So it does that better.
FWIW, yeah, I know about Mosin Nagants. But they're not common around here at all. They do turn up but they're not really used as general purpose/hunting rifles as much as they're toys for rednecks with an extra $100 or for milsurp shooters/collectors.
And I disagree about a semi-auto being more likely to malfunction than a lever. Some of the most reliable designs in history are semi-auto (or even select fire). The AK and the FAL come to mind as extremely reliable semi-auto rifles that many of us are familiar with. Sad to say, but these days you can't really compare the two. On one hand you have semi-auto rifles that are built in some cases from brand new OEM military parts kits. They were designed to work well for years of service in the hands of semi-trained people who are going to do stupid things with them occasionally. They handle it (even the maligned M-16 stands up well to run of the mill stupidity in my experience). On the other side, you have a lever action that was built knowing that the end user will likely not shoot more than thousand rounds through it in the entire life of the rifle.
Which do you think is going to be the most reliable over the longest period of time?
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All things being equal.........no ... IMHO.
Art Eatman
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Better to start a new thread with a link to this one. Folks who care to browse the entire thread can do so. Most won't and will offer an opinion which is a repeat of what has been said before--which is basically okay, because newbies see it and begin to learn.
But necrothreadia is a pain.
But necrothreadia is a pain.
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