The Founders wanted people to be able to successfully resist oppression.
Does it make any sense to allege that I ought to have at my disposal more power generally to take life than a trained FBI agent?
Well buddy, you're gonna have to pick a direction here. No, really.
While an armed citizenry certainly can help in such an endeavor, by alone it is not enough.
The Founding Fathers thought otherwise by giving the People that one tangible item which would give us a fighting chance… Arms.
Yes, an armed population could be an effective deterent to tyranny; but, one needed the political organization of a State to make such a deterent effective.
Rubbish. Pure, unmitigated hogwash. What if said State was the source of said tyranny? You make the Founders prescience in giving the 2nd SOLEY to the People radiate in its brilliance.
But, there is a problem here: States, themselves, could become corrupt. What if it were the federal government which was virtuous, and a State or league of states which was evil? Answering this question frames the debate about the actual meaning of the Second Amendment.
No, it’s quite clear. The People have been given the means and the DUTY to overthrow tyranny. “…Actual meaning…” WHAT? The meaning is quite clear as it was written in laymen’s terms to avoid ambiguity.
This, responded Alexander Hamilton (in The Federalst, No. 28), was exactly what was needed -- in any physical fight over what the Constitution means, it must be the people who decide, and if necessary with their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. In any fight over what the Constitution means, the people must choose which side they are on and act accordingly. And to make such a choice more than an intellectual exercise, the people had to be armed.
Yet, despite Hamilton’s words, you surmise that the People should wait ‘til the State deigns them worthy of arms to defeat itself? Further proof and reinforcement of the 2nd, exactly as written.
The right to keep and bear arms is not in the Second Amendment; it is in the fine structure of the Constitution itself and cannot disappear, unless the Constitution itself be overthrown.
Wrong. The Power rests with the People expressly to survive potential failings at the State/Federal level.
It is only when we step back and look at the entire constitutional system that we realize that rights to arms are individual, though of a special character, just like the right to vote.
You are amazing. I thank you for giving me a moment of amazing clarity. For the first time in my life I have the gut-wrenching feeling of a subjugated, downtrodden, oppressed and exploited woman or Black man of 100 years ago. How DARE you? What unmitigated tripe. That one would even entertain such thoughts epitomizes our fall as free Citizens.
Every citizen individually has the right to vote, but until we hold an election, the individual right is meaningless. Similarly with the right to arms. The Founders were men of the Enlightenment -- men of reason. They were not gun-toting crazies, nor did they want to turn all the cities of America into Dodge City.
I daresay that these men would have held you up as a fine example of a yellowbelly and if you marshaled the temerity & backbone to question such in public, you’d have received a ball of lead for your troubles. At a place and time of your choosing, of course.
They would have been aghast at the idea of some terrorist gang securing weapons and using them in a criminal or treasonous enterprise to frustrate the law, and in the Federalist Papers, co-author James Madison referred to such groups as "factions" (a derogatory term).
No, they would be appalled at the notion of citizens being slaughtered because the State had yet to decree “election” day, everybody can "vote" and the chance for mere serfs to defend themselves. Sheesh!
Furthermore, there is a difference between militia and military arms -- military arms would be any arms (up to atomic bombs) useful in a military capacity, whereas militia arms are those appropriate for use by the militia (a body organized to suppress insurrections and repel invasions). Militia arms appropriate to civilian use traditionally include small arms (as opposed to cannons or the like, which at one time the States kept in state armories). But, remember: There is such a thing as the Geneva Convention. As a matter of international law, the "small arms" must be arms which soldiers would carry openly -- in plain view. Stated succinctly, a .45 auto-loader (Army Colt) qualifies; a Derringer does not.
I’m going to let some else enjoy ripping this paragraph to shreds. Give the U.N. a big hug for me, eh?
Militias control domestic violence, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions. With the exception of the last, these activities may be considered quasi-law-enforcement. And what kinds of weapons do cops carry? As a rule, they do not include anti-tank rocket launchers or area weapons such as machine guns or sawed off shotguns. After all, would you want the cops to enforce the laws against drug dealing by coming into your neighborhood and just shooting everyone in sight? The idea, as I always understood it, was for the cops to target the bad guy. Most certainly, I don't want them targeting me. I don't want them to have the power to engage in wanton violence. That being the case, what makes anyone think a judge is going to want to invest such power in me?
Yep, every time I shoot a machine gun I resist the urge to mow down the entire village. “Wanton violence…” just cries out to my very fiber. You forgot to mention children. Tsk -10 points. Yep, just wait until the judge invests you with the power & then you can trot on out there to do battle against tyranny, domestic violence, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions. Hopefully, this will all occur around “election” day and you’ll get to “vote”. Unfreakingbelievable.
Does it make any sense to allege that I ought to have at my disposal more power generally to take life than a trained FBI agent? No judge is going to make that ruling; it defies common sense. So, if you are going to ask for that kind of power, tell me -- please! -- some specific reason why I or anyone else should let you have it. What is the public benefit?
Simple. Follow the bouncing ball. …the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Psst, in addition, hate to press a potential soiling point for ya but, (whispers) I have that kind of firepower already. And the FBI’s ok with that. Despite your misguided beliefs.
The law relies on text and history. The cases we can use don't focus as such on what the weapons are but rather on how they are likely to be used, and that's true in every society, even Switzerland (where citizens are prohibited from owning some kinds of small arms but often are required by law to keep and maintain, e.g., fully operable anti-aircraft guns in their homes).
Need I remind you we live in the United States of America? Take your One World Order mewlings & stuff ‘em deep in that U.N. pipe.
The future of our children & country are at stake. I hope your students question everything that issues from your maw and realize the danger you and your ilk pose to this country. Nothing personal, it’s only our way of life & freedom at stake.