AR Arm Brace clarification

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It appears the BATF just sent a letter of clarification to SB Tactical on the shouldering of AR pistols. There's a lot of hype and speculation of what this means. I've read the original letter (2012) the first clarification (2015) and the new letter and don't see what a lot of people are claiming, that you can now shoulder an AR pistol.

Any opinions ? Especially "legal" ones.

The BATF letter is NOT short and concise
 
Edit: Removed my original reply. The actual ATF opinion letter is quite different than the quotes in some of the articles. Link below to actual letter.

Hense the problem
I've watched three videos and read topics posted on several forums. I then read the three papers from the ATF. I think people are reading what they want.
If you're wrong it only a felony.
I've had people tell my I can own a supressor without a stamp if I don't have a threaded barrel gun.
 
This was from Shockwave Technologies Facebook page, they make the blade brace.

ATF Says Shockwave Blade Okay to Shoulder.

I just got off the phone with a very nice gentleman at ATF Tech Branch---who was fielding these calls today. (He was, understandably, very well versed on the subject---and very nice about it even though he's been on the phone all day, repeating himself ad nauseam.) I identified myself and asked him specifically if the letter that's making the rounds is limited to one company's products--or if it applies to all pistol stabilizing braces. He said: "The letter covers all pistol stabilizing braces, including the Shockwave Blade." So that settles that.

He then gave me two points of further guidance for our customers:

1. By "permanent affixing," ATF considers that to be adding permanent Loctite to the large set screw that secures the Blade into the dimples in the KAK tube. As long as you don't red Loctite the set screw in place, ATF considers it to be "temporarily placed" and "perfectly okay to shoulder." (He didn't beat around the bush on this topic.)

2. "Length of pull"---for lack of a better word regarding pistol braces---begins to enter a "gray area" above 13.5". Above 13.5" begins "to enter shoulder stock area." (His words. I believe this has to do with the "comfortableness" aspect.) On an AR-15 pistol, the "length of pull" for the Blade is approximately 13.13", so no issues there. But if you use the Blade on a firearm that requires a large adapter of some sort, please make sure that you only use the dimples up to the point that you remain below the 13.5" length. Stay below 13.5" and according to ATF, it's okay to shoulder a Shockwave Blade.

So there you have it. Anything you read to the contrary on a web forum, social media site, or industry blog is simple misinformation by people who are not being completely honest.
 
Red Locktite? No blind weld or 1100F silver solder?

Mike

PS: Of course this hearsay means nothing legally. No way you could argue estoppel by acquiescence (not a easy argument to begin with) from an account of an anonymous phone conversation.

PPS: Wonder where I used to be in that grey area while I was waiting for my stamps years ago-because that tube was as short as possible without cutting the brace itself. I know I have that front strap somewhere.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1nfwdb2t93eijkb/11.5 in pistol with SB-15.JPG?dl=0
 
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