AR triggers and accessories.

[strat1962]

Debating on buying myself a Christmas present (AR 15) and seeing how i know absolutely nothing about them i am seeking your advice. I went to a reputable shop today and spoke to their AR guy who shoots lots of competition with them and his suggestions was stay away from the M&P sport II due to loose tolerance, the next step up would be Ruger MPR or Springfield Saint. Was he just pushing more $$?

M&P sport ii comes with a vortex strikefire II for about $750. He says trigger is trash and needs upgraded and red dot is also not that great.

Springfield comes with a Vortex or Hex red dot, magpul flip sights, case and sling with one mag. The trigger on the Saint is also flat and breaks very light. I have read a lot of reviews saying stay away from the Springfield.

Ruger MPR just has a magpul forened and 2 stage trigger but i heard any parts are proprietary to that rifle. It does have a 20” barrel which could be better for bench shooting and hunting.

If i was going with a store bought package just for random plinking and coyote hunting what would be your pick? They can also order anything i want.

Shots max at 200-300yards. Of course i would scope it.

What scope rings would you suggest for a coyote hunting setup?

How about the triggers on both higher end rifles?

For starters, what's your budget on rifle and optic? That will narrow it down quick.

 

[small town life]

ALG is their sister company according (and by Bill's words) which is his wife as she wanted to start something of her own because she loves firearms.

 

[Justin]

Came here to post this for peoples reference.

https://geissele.com/alg-home

This is why ALG triggers in AK's are the trigger to beat.

They make good AR triggers as well, I'm just a LaRue trigger guy, hard to beat the affordability of LaRue on their $80 sales that I just put them in everything so there is commonality on the trigger front of all my AR's.

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The way that I read this is that Geissele spun off ALG as it's own outfit, and with it being a woman-owned small business it will be given certain privileges when bidding on government contracts. No idea if the triggers come off of the same machines or not, but it's not uncommon for companies that bid on defense contracts to try to check as many boxes as possible (veteran owned, woman owned, etc.) in order to look more favorable to the people with the money.

 

[BreechFace]

The way that I read this is that Geissele spun off ALG as it's own outfit, and with it being a woman-owned small business it will be given certain privileges when bidding on government contracts. No idea if the triggers come off of the same machines or not, but it's not uncommon for companies that bid on defense contracts to try to check as many boxes as possible (veteran owned, woman owned, etc.) in order to look more favorable to the people with the money.

Identity politics spending our tax dollars. You are astute sir!

 

[Justin]

Identity politics spending our tax dollars. You are astute sir!

DoD and a lot of federal contracting gives perks to companies that are veteran owned, woman owned, disabled owned, hire vets, or located in HUBZone areas.

Like it or not, that's how the game is played.