Tulsa OK sees more and more gang related crime but little of it is labled as such in the media. My main concern is
when (not if) it spreads to the rural areas how far will they go. A meth lab in a rural county is a lot easier to hide than one in a city.
Tulsa's city govt is inept. I feel sorry for the Tulsa PD. When you are understaffed as much as they are you haven't a chance. I remember hearing on Michael Del Jorno's radio show a couple of years ago that they were 2 or 300 cops short from where they needed to be. I don't know what it is now, but when the mayor spend money on a new arena instead of public safety you get a city where gang bangers and criminals feel they can do what they want.
It doesn't make any sense.
I remember going to the Cain's ballroom in August and seeing a "gang fight" on the way back to my car after a concert. And, when I was on my way back to OKC in 30' from Ft. Leonard Wood MO for Xmas leave the bus stopped in Tulsa and me and a couple guys went to find some beers. About 5 guys (don't know if they were bangers or not) started towards us, but realizing there were 9 of us in class A's they turned around and went into an "ethnic" night club not far away from the bus stop. But, I have had way more run ins in OKC and I spend a lot of time in Tulsa because it has a much better night life.
I used to remodel houses over by Capital Hill which is one of the worst areas of OKC. I had to open carry while at the job sight because the "gentlemen" would start creeping over to where I was (usually alone). Also had more than a fair share of run ins in the far north east and midwest city area. I witnessed a drive by in Midwest City.
About 10 years ago my dad was the target in a drive by in the north east side. He was paid to sand blast some graffitti off of a rehab house for HUD. He knew what was up when they circled for their 2nd pass and dove under his truck right before they opened fire. He called the cops with his phone in one hand and in the other he had a ruger p85. When the cops got there they told him to get a "gauge" (shotgun) and said not to work there later than 4pm. This was 10 years ago, and many people high up are still saying we don't have a problem.
My dad and uncles live in OKC just south of Edmond (between Britton road and Hefner off of Western) and on New Years eve my uncle was at a liquor store on Hefner and Western. A guy was gunned down right in front of him. He saw him running down the street as fast as he could then a car pulled up behind him and a dude opened up on him with a pistol shooting him about 6 or 7 times in the back. My uncle just hit the deck and drew his p11 hoping they didn't come around for another pass.
I am up at the family compound (my uncles and a few others are buying up as many houses as they cxan in their neighborhood, which is increasingly more affordable) about2 or 3 times a week. If it is dark I have my SA 1911 in my lap (also have a snubby .357 IWB) and I roll trhu the stop signs. The cops sitting by the rail road tracks never say a thing they usually recommend these and other tid bits to law abiding citizens if they have to be up there after dark.
My family and I hear gun fire a few times a week. It is never on their block because it is one of the hold outs in the area to the degenerates. It is becoming a very scary world and our open border policy isn't making it any better. I don't know what it will take for some people to wake up before it is too late.:banghead:
