Armed civilian stops mass shooting

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Well its a pretty fresh story but it sounds like a good guy with a gun prevented people from dying.

But of course the MSM will spin it to their agenda, local PC already in lock step.

For sure more details will need to emerge to make an accurate assessment but we can already see the direction the story is going by the propagandists.
 
As time progresses, the number of armed citizens who decide "not today, not here" is just going to increase. Defensive "experts" with blogs and tactical "pundits" with YouTube channels will debate their actions, but none of that really matters to a citizen who realizes they can potentially make difference. Many will decide that stopping a spree killer "is my circus, is my monkeys".
 
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Well I'm shocked, sitting here watching CBS news this morning (the show that precedes the local affiliate), the anchor is saying, "police report the shooter was stopped by a legally armed citizen". In the past I've seen them caveat such events by including interviews with "experts" who state armed citizens only multiply the potential for loss of life and that these events should "only be dealt with by trained law enforcement responders". We'll see if that happens here or if this will be a small victory, particularly after the Uvalde response fiasco.
 
Yeah, the MSM does not seem to be burying this story. They are all mentioning it. Now, will this be mentioned in the media for weeks? Nope, and for good reason. This isn't an ongoing fiasco like Uvalde. The number of dead and wounded are relatively few. There aren't dozens of parents waiting outside for word to come from disagreeable cops.

In the news business, hero stories are generally short lived, regardless of the situation, not just Good Sam with a gun stories, but all of them. Heroism isn't a big selling point, not because the media is biased, but because the viewers are biased. Everybody seems to enjoy a good train wreck or car pile up. Are you going to watch a video multiple times of cars cruising safely down the icy road or are you going to watch the video where car after car loses control on the ice? Is it more interesting to hear about the story where the Good Sam helps a woman give birth in the back of a cab on the side of the road, or the story where the car gets clobbered while she is giving birth. "If it bleeds it leads" has been around since 1898...because that is what sells print space, air time, and now internet bandwidth.

The good guy with a gun did well in this case. It will be interesting to learn the details of the shooting. At the current time, they are saying the armed citizen was 22 year old male.
 
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I saw another one from Missouri where a legally armed citizen stopped at a convenience station to use the bathroom. Saw a situation, went back to his vehicle and got his gun and re entered to kill the suspect.

In the past the story would have gotten the negative spin for the re entering but the police were actually on the side of the citizen.
 
Would someone please explain why we tax payers are buying all this swat equipment, ( AR15's, body armor, flash grenades, personnel carriers and a hundred other things) when all the police do is stand there when it's all over. Case after case. The only time they seem to use their weapons is on some unarmed civilian. All they seem to need is revolvers and probably just one round in their pockets like Barney Fife.
 
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All they seem to need is revolvers and probably just one round in their pockets like Barney Fife.
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New York police need at least 50 rounds per encounter (because of their lawyer triggers).

And could they actually load the one round in the right chamber in a revolver under stress? I think at least a speedloader is reasonable ;)
 
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The local news covered this and gave it a fair shake. Hopefully the concealed carry guy will not catch any flack.
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Local news outlets are not the same as the national ones, network affiliations aside. After all, they live around there too and not in some Manhattan high rise; they run into their viewers/ readers occasionally.
 
From a moral standpoint, the right thing to do is for the armed bystander to intervene, to save lives. But from a legal standpoint, the basis of being armed is personal self defense. Every armed citizen is not a substitute, amateur, self-appointed policeman. As laudable as this person's actions were, if as a society we go down that road, it will ultimately lead to chaos.

And this armed bystander was lucky. In a similar situation, he could have made a mistake, an innocent person could have been shot, and then he could be subject to legal liability. If you're going to intervene, you damn well better be sure you are shooting the right person. The police have legal protections, for their actions, that ordinary citizens do not.
 
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From a moral standpoint, the right thing to do is for the armed bystander to intervene, to save lives. But from a legal standpoint, the basis of being armed is personal self defense. Every armed citizen is not a substitute, amateur, self-appointed policeman. As laudable as this person's actions were, if as a society we go down that road, it will ultimately lead to chaos.

And this armed bystander was lucky. In a similar situation, he could have made a mistake, an innocent person could have been shot, and then he could be subject to legal liability. If you're going to intervene, you damn well better be sure you are shooting the right person. The police have legal protections, for their actions, that ordinary citizens do not.
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I do believe that the armed bystander was in the food court when the shooter entered and started shooting, so that should satisfy those that say that the defender should only act in self-defense... .
 
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And this armed bystander was lucky. In a similar situation, he could have made a mistake, an innocent person could have been shot, and then he could be subject to legal liability. If you're going to intervene, you damn well better be sure you are shooting the right person. The police have legal protections, for their actions, that ordinary citizens do not.
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Not even the police anymore. They've been getting hit hard with civil rights prosecutions.

So this citizen violated the mall firearms policy. I don't know if it is a criminal act in that state, but if it is, you can be damn sure he would've been charged if he'd hit an innocent party.
 
"The Armed Citizen" has been a full-page feature in the American Rifleman for many decades.

In many instances, violence has been averted by the mere presence of a firearm without a shot being fired.

Put that in your Agenda and smoke it, antigunners !

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