guyfromohio
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I am currently in Maine. Had to drive from ohio through New York, Mass, and NH. I chose to just leave it home. I'm too pretty for prison.
Automobile trip to the North East with a handgun
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razorback2003
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You might be able to bring a long gun in your car and also in your hotel room. A remington 870 breaks down easy when you take the barrel off and you could store it in a suitcase when in the car or moving it into the hotel. I know you can bring a long gun to NY State, even though it is difficult for an out of state person to possess a handgun. New Jersey might be the same way and have less restrictions on long guns.
Even a shotgun may not fly in New Jersey according to this....
http://criminallawyerinnj.com/nj-unlawful-possession-of-rifles-and-shotguns/
"Shotguns are one of the easiest weapons to obtain in New Jersey. If you have a Firearms Purchaser identification card, you are allowed to own one. That said, you are not allowed to carry around a loaded shotgun. Even in transport to the range, there are guidelines for gun storage. The section of the New Jersey gun statute that involves shotguns states:
1. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any rifle or shotgun without having first obtained a firearms purchaser identification card is guilty of a crime of the third degree.
2. Unless otherwise permitted by law, any person who knowingly has in his possession any loaded rifle or shotgun is guilty of a crime of the third degree.
Even on a third degree gun charge, you are looking at lengthy prison sentence, and they can potentially be avoided with the right criminal defense."
It is better to spend time with friends in a different gun friendly state rather than risk your freedom and $$$$ in New Jersey. Go unarmed or just don't go to New Jersey.
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mahansm
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I had a similar situation a couple years ago; driving from Florida to visit family in Pittsburgh, PA, and then up to Boston. I left the firearms and ammo in Pittsburgh, picking them up on the way back.
TheVision
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Not in Connecticut, and certainly not without a non-resident pistol permit (outside of some very narrow exceptions).
oneounceload
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A few years ago my wife wanted a lobster roll from Red's. 4000 miles in 10 days including NY to VT to NH to ME to MA to CT to NYC to NJ (all the way down) to MD and so forth. With my FL plates I should have been cannon fodder based on all of the purported shenanigans the cops up there do, especially with FL plates. Nothing happened, nada, nil, zilch. No magic gunpowder sensors at the borders. Ran my radar, stayed at the limit or below when it chirped, and all went well.
OP, just leave it at your friend's PA home and go enjoy the beach - it's one of the few things NJ has that is really nice.
OP, just leave it at your friend's PA home and go enjoy the beach - it's one of the few things NJ has that is really nice.
Sav .250
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It`s really on you to get the facts.
If you were to get stopped for say a violation. What`s your excuse? Somebody said!
Crossing state lines........ Certainly can be done. Just get it right.
If you were to get stopped for say a violation. What`s your excuse? Somebody said!
Crossing state lines........ Certainly can be done. Just get it right.
TheVision
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You could chance it, get in a car accident, and get sentenced to 15 months in prison for possessing weapons in a motor vehicle. You can then spend the next three years getting that judgment overturned.
Oh boy, here we go again. Yet another one getting "Jammed up in Jersey". Now it is Brian Fletcher from NC. Advice to all....stay out of New Jersey.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=783708
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http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=783708
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oneounceload
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Better to just leave gun out of NJ
splattergun
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The most pragmatic and realistic idea in this whole thread
Red Wind
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^ Thank you! A very fine compliment! It is appreciated, splattergun. 
This is NOT advice on how to violate any laws, but if a driver obeys the laws, moves with the traffic (yes, sometimes traffic moves faster than the limit - stay with the traffic), blends in, and doesn't excite the cops, the chances of being stopped are about nil.
If the car is painted bright red with yellow flames; has a loud muffler; displays "off the pigs" and "cold dead hands" bumper stickers; and the passengers are waving guns around, aiming them at other cars; the chances of getting stopped and searched are, shall we say, significantly greater.
Also, keep gun related items out of sight, even printed matter. In MD a car was stopped for speeding. They might have gotten off with a warning, but the cop spotted a speed loader on the console, which gave him probable cause to search for, and find, a loaded gun in the console. The driver said that he thought the cops would be too dumb to know what a speed loader was! Wrong.
Jim
If the car is painted bright red with yellow flames; has a loud muffler; displays "off the pigs" and "cold dead hands" bumper stickers; and the passengers are waving guns around, aiming them at other cars; the chances of getting stopped and searched are, shall we say, significantly greater.
Also, keep gun related items out of sight, even printed matter. In MD a car was stopped for speeding. They might have gotten off with a warning, but the cop spotted a speed loader on the console, which gave him probable cause to search for, and find, a loaded gun in the console. The driver said that he thought the cops would be too dumb to know what a speed loader was! Wrong.
Jim
oneounceload
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That's just good common sense advice whether a gun is in the mix or not.
I live in Pennsylvania and I commute 2-1/2 hrs each day to work in NJ, and I will not move to NJ because of the stupid firearms laws, which are intended to discourage firearm ownership in the first place. Of course, my PA license to carry is not reciprocal in NJ.
There is a well-publicized case of a nurse who lived in Philadelphia, who was driving in South Jersey on her way to the Jersey shore, she was stopped by local police for a moving violation. She voluntarily disclosed to the cop that she had a PA license to carry AND that she was carrying a loaded firearm inside her purse in the passenger compartment of the car. She was arrested and spent time in jail awaiting trial for felony firearms possession. She was eventually pardoned by Gov. Christie, but not before this woman's life was turned upside down for almost 2 years. here is the article;
http://articles.philly.com/2015-04-04/news/60790722_1_gun-laws-shaneen-allen-bersa-thunder
You should study this website that explains the handgun laws across the country;
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
There is a well-publicized case of a nurse who lived in Philadelphia, who was driving in South Jersey on her way to the Jersey shore, she was stopped by local police for a moving violation. She voluntarily disclosed to the cop that she had a PA license to carry AND that she was carrying a loaded firearm inside her purse in the passenger compartment of the car. She was arrested and spent time in jail awaiting trial for felony firearms possession. She was eventually pardoned by Gov. Christie, but not before this woman's life was turned upside down for almost 2 years. here is the article;
http://articles.philly.com/2015-04-04/news/60790722_1_gun-laws-shaneen-allen-bersa-thunder
You should study this website that explains the handgun laws across the country;
http://www.handgunlaw.us/
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OptimusPrime
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Note to any trolls or fedora-wearing grad students out there who have googled "gun laws" and "gun rights activists": this is a long thread with good information on helping a law-abiding and probably decent American stay legal and conform with various state laws as he travels. The solution he will arrive at is undoubtedly going to be one where he elects to just leave his gun somewhere, either at home or with a friend in a legal state. The end result is going to be that "one more gun won't be coming into NJ!"
What website or tools do criminals use in order to find the best information for their travels so they can stay legal?
What website or tools do criminals use in order to find the best information for their travels so they can stay legal?
Note that just leaving a gun with someone in another State would generally be an interstate transfer unlawful under federal law. If one wants to store his gun with someone in another State, the gun should be in a locked case to which only the owners has the key or combination. The person with whom the gun is stored must not have access to the gun.OptimusPrime said:
jimbo555
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Buy a motorhome and tow a small car. Take your gun and drive to Pa. using a route that doesn't go through Maryland and N.J. Stay in Pa. with the motorhome. When you visit friends in N.J. Leave the guns in Pa. in the motorhome.
Sam1911
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Dang! We went from visiting some friends to buying a motorhome. Talk about killing a fly with a sledgehammer...
At that rate....It would be cheaper to fly all of the OP's friends out to Texas, go visit several gun ranges and rent out machine guns and pay for the ammo, hunt hogs with a helicopter, rent out a motel on the Gulf Coast, rent out a party boat and probably still have money left over.
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BSA1
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Ask yourself "is this trip worth the risk"?
We just back from a two week trip to Maryland. We drove through nine states including Illinois and stayed in Maryland for a week. We stayed in motels going and coming back.
Before going I researched Maryland's gun laws and did a risk assessment of our travel route, where and what motels to stay in and where we would be visiting. The only red flags were the gun laws in Illinois and Maryland. Illinois initially was not a concern as we were not stopping in it but road construction on I-70 made getting through that state a long drive in construction zones that usually are prime location for speeding tickets. On the way back we took I-64 to bypass Illinois.
I left my guns and ammunition at home. At no time did we ever feel we were in any danger and had a great visit.
We just back from a two week trip to Maryland. We drove through nine states including Illinois and stayed in Maryland for a week. We stayed in motels going and coming back.
Before going I researched Maryland's gun laws and did a risk assessment of our travel route, where and what motels to stay in and where we would be visiting. The only red flags were the gun laws in Illinois and Maryland. Illinois initially was not a concern as we were not stopping in it but road construction on I-70 made getting through that state a long drive in construction zones that usually are prime location for speeding tickets. On the way back we took I-64 to bypass Illinois.
I left my guns and ammunition at home. At no time did we ever feel we were in any danger and had a great visit.
jimbo555
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If you buy the motorhome used at the right price, you can use it for the trip and sell it when you get home and recoup your investment!
oneounceload
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I have found the safest places to stay, the nicest scenery, and the LEAST amount of police cars to be OFF the Interstate. Driving on country roads through rolling hills and farmland is pleasant, fairly quick, a LOT less stressful, and easily done without major speed traps. I also run my radar detector....
If leaving it at his buddy's house isn't feasible, then renting a safety deposit box at a bank is another option. Rent for the shortest amount of time, pick up your gun on the way out of town and then let the lease simply expire.
Red Wind
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Sam1911 said:
Now, that was funny!
Red Wind
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Frank Ettin said:
When I leave my gun with my Bangor,PA cousins it's locked in a steel Brinks carrying case. I retain the key. They then lock the Brinks case in their bolted combination floor safe.
Is this legal Frank and not a unlawful interstate transfer? I sure hope so, as we will be getting together again in October. Our age range is from 66 to 75, so staying out of trouble is our prime objective!
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