Average Garand Price

[Aaryq]

Howdy folks. How much does an average M1 Garand cost? I don't need an unissued super duper one. I'm just curious about how much one that looks like it has been through H-E-double hockey sticks and back but still works well enough to shoot up to 300-500 yards and hit the black of a silhouette target?

**ETA** How about something that can shoot an animal at a humane distance?

**ETA Part II** Big game and coydogs at a distance you would consider humane

 

[ReadyontheRight]

They are likely to go up now that www.odcmp.com is out.

I would say in the $700-800 range. I did see a nice Danish Garand with a VAR barrel at my last gun show (April?) for $650. I should have bought it. So keep looking. There are a lot of them out there that people paid $300 - $500 for.

Check out www.garandguy.com He has nice refurbished Garands at good prices. You will not get a collector - he refinishes them - but you will get a good shooter. Pretty close to a "new" Garand without buying the questionable and expensive new Springfields.

 

[Neo-Luddite]

If you are not looking for a historically 'correct' M-1, but one that would be issuable in military terms, I think $600.00 is about the jump off point.

The problem is, most people with guns in that nice shootable shape are shooting them. You may get lucky, but with CMP not injecting any into the market right now I think people are holding onto their gear.

If the CMP starts shipping again, they will be the best sorce on a budget.
If you want to buy now, Ready on the Right offers some good advice.

The up side is the ammo from CMP is still a great deal and just makes the purchase all-the-more worthwile.

 

[Mumwaldee]

I think CMP is back in business in October? With a stash of Greek Garands. Most of the Garands I saw last weekend were from 650 dollar beaters to 2000 dollar beauties.

 

[jamesb]

Head on over to Culiver's shooting page, they have a very helpfull garand forum. if you are looking for a shooter you can probly find one over there.
http://www.jouster.com/index.html

 

[davera]

At guns shows over the last year, prices had been going up north of the 800 dollar mark. But curiously, at the Montgomery show last month they were back down in th 600-ish to 700-ish range.

 

[Dirtypacman]

I got mine from the CMP for $425 in absolutely great shape.
I have seen them at stores ranging from $700-1100.

 

[FDC]

In addition to all that has been said. If you're patient enough, and don't want one NOW, I'd wait until the CMP builds their barreled receivers into rifles, or gets a new shipment in. It's supposed to be around October this year, but who knows. I have 2 USGI Springers with WWII serial numbers from the CMP--1 for $425, and 1 for $550. Both are shooters.
Like the other have said, scour the gun shows, or discussion boards-you never know what you'll find.
Their are a few reputable places like the Garand Guy that will sell you nice rifles if you want one now.
Expect to pay over $600+ for rifles bought outside the CMP.
CMP is still the best for M2 Ball.

 

[aspree]

I just received my Garand from The Garand Guy. (http://www.garandguy.com/issuegrade.htm) It is absolutely BEAUTIFUL.

Supposedly, CMP will be selling more Garands in late 2007, but I wanted a piece to shoot as soon as possible. If you can wait until the end of this year, I would wait until CMP starts selling more Garands. However, if you're like me and can't wait another second without owning this amazing rifle, then I would think about going with someone like The Garand Guy.

And, by the way, I have nothing but good things to say about my transaction with Tony, The Garand Guy. Highly recommended.

 

[Titan6]

The ''something to shoot an animal at a humane distance'' is not real clear. Give a more specific task and you will likely get a response.

 

[Aaryq]

I'm quite sorry Titan. The animals I was speaking about Odocoileus hemionus, Odocoileus virginianus, Cervus canadensis, and Canis latrans (just because everyone needs a little overkill). I was thinking about taking out these animals at under 200 yards (Marine Rifle Expert 2nd award).

Oh too specific...Mule Deer, White Tail Deer, Elk, and Coyotes...plus I'm a good shot.

Don't take offense, I was just being silly, not D**khead silly though.

 

[FDC]

I'm quite sorry Titan. The animals I was speaking about Odocoileus hemionus, Odocoileus virginianus, Cervus canadensis, and Canis latrans (just because everyone needs a little overkill). I was thinking about taking out these animals at under 200 yards

Going by CMP grades, a field grade or above would easily do the trick. A rack would probably work as well if you're careful.

 

[Titan6]

I don't know one smartelec Marine from another. At least you used the latin so I can understand what you were talking about.... as I am not so sure what a Mule-Deer is... How did they get the deer to kiss the mule anyway?

.30-06 is well suited for all of those animals. On targets that may require a heavier bullet a Garand may not be your best choice as you are limited in bullet weight to I think 165 grains or there about.

Unless you buy from Garand Guy you need to check barrel erosion before you buy. This will help determine the accuarcy of your gun prior to any work on it. If the tolerances are tight you likely have a winner.

 

[jefnvk]

I got mine from the CMP for $425 in absolutely great shape.

+1. Jump on it if they come back

As far as humane, mine will outshoot me. However, as I can make a much more humane shot with a scoped hunting rifle, a Garand wouldnt be my first choice. If I can see the animal, tho, I could hit it.

 

[mp510]

CMP expects to have more in October, or so they say...

 

[Guy B. Meredith]

Actually for the heavier bullets you can get a Schuster or similar adjustable gas cylinder plug.

I have a problem with semi autos or any other mechanical device that has a tendency to be finicky, so had to try the plug.

 

[Aaryq]

Titan. You have made me ask a quite serious question. I am new to hunting deer. I thought any 30-06 bullet made for hunting would work on deer. The other question is: Why is a 165 Gr bullet the max weight I can use?

 

[Swampy]

Aaryq,

The M1 rifle is a gas operated weapon. The ACTION of said rifle is as strong as any out there... BUT, and this is a BIG but, the gas system of the M1 rifle is designed to operate ONLY with ammo being made to produce gas port pressure in a very narrow range. M2 ball ammo is what the US military made to fit this requirement.

Unless you are shooting USGI military M2 ball ammo (or foreign equivalent) you are risking damage to not only your rifle but yourself. Commercial hunting ammo is not made to fit the narrow range of gas port pressure that the M1 needs to function reliably without breaking things. Typically, commercial ammo is loaded with powders way too slow for the M1's gas system to tolerate.

Before this thread goes to the "next level"... and all sorts of guys show up saying, "I shoot such and such hunting ammo and ain't nuffin' never happen'd to my M1"..... remember that some ammo, while being only slightly over the limit of recommended gas port pressure may not cause a catastrophic failure of parts... metal fatigue is a CUMULATIVE process. Damage can be happening and you won't know it until it's too late. At that point, parts replacement will be your only recourse.... and M1 op-rods are not cheap and the price is escalating rapidly

Now..... are you a handloader??? If so, then no problem. Just load your ammo to meet the specs of M2 and you are good to go with the M1. The two "Gas system safe load Rules" for the M1 rifle are as follows:

1) NEVER load bullets HEAVIER than 180 grains
2) NEVER load powder that is SLOWER than IMR-4320

Observing both these rules will keep your ammo in the safe range for the M1's gas system.

Note: The above rules were given by the Tech Weenies of Springfield Arsenal, the people who made the M1, to the NRA way back in the 1950's to pass on to civilian Highpower shooters. This was when the M1 was first being made available to civvy shooters for comp purposes. Prior to that it was not an issue cuz' the only people allowed to shoot the M1 were military folk and they only shot the ammo that was issued to them.

Regards,
Swampy

Garands forever

 

[Titan6]

As I said the animals you listed should be fine with that size bullet. It is only the much larger animals (moose, bear) that ''I'' might want some different bullets for.

Edit: Hunting with military FMJ is not legal in most states. Ideally a soft point or hollow point bullet that expands and penetrates to the proper depth is required.

Can you kill the animal with FMJ? Sure all day long. Will it be quick and clean? Depends upon where you shoot it. Shot placement will be much more of a challenge without a scope. .30-06 is not exactly a ''wounding round'' but a poorly placed shot may cripple the animal and you will end up trailing it through miles of brush.

 

[akolleth]

+1 on buying from CMP if you can wait a bit

I got mine as a woodless from them in March for $295, added in another $100 or so worth of stock and stock parts and got this

 

[FDC]

Garands are still around for private sellers. A nice/beautiful post WWII original Springfield walked in through he doors of the Shreveport, LA gun show today. The gentleman was looking to sell or trade.

The cool thing I saw was another seller tell this man that his rifle might be worth something, and not to let someone con him into a bad trade. I also tried to offer unsolicited advice on how he should hold on to his rifle. This was based upon his reasons he gave me. I hope he did--just for the reasons he said.

 

[Cosmoline]

I was about to say I hadn't seen bupkus locally for under eight hundred, when at the store today I saw a batch of fairly nice looking Springfield parts Garands for six bills. Here's hoping the price stabilizes, at least for the shooter grade rifles.

 

[Samuraigg]

I've been looking to buy a garand in the not so distant future (maybe next year) and I was wondering how someone would buy one from CMP. Don't you have to qualify for the purchase?

 

[FDC]

I've been looking to buy a garand in the not so distant future (maybe next year) and I was wondering how someone would buy one from CMP. Don't you have to qualify for the purchase?

http://www.odcmp.com/Services/Rifles/eligibility_requirements.htm

It's spelled out well at this link. If you have any question harass us before you bug the busy folks at CMP. I qualify the easy way--Active Army ID card.

 

[Samuraigg]

Think if I email my local range they would be willing to spare a range officer to watch me shoot 50 rounds for this form, so I can qualify?

http://www.odcmp.com/Forms/marksmanship.pdf