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Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by moooose102, Apr 20, 2009.

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  1. moooose102

    moooose102 Member

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    well, i pulled a dummy sometime last week. i thought all of the primers were in the tray correctly, but i must have missed one. anyway, it is now seated in a fully loaded round of ammo. i dont have a problem pulling the round apart, but how do i get the primer out with out it going off?
     
  2. Ben Shepherd

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    Pull the bullet, dump the powder, and push it out carefully with the decapping pin in the sizing die, just like a spent primer. The anvil isn't set against anything, so the odds of it going off are VERY low. If you're really worried about it, put a drop of oil on it first.
     
  3. NCsmitty

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    First off, i would put a drop of oil in the open primer and let it sit for a couple days. Give it a chance to soak and become inert before doing anything.

    NCsmitty
     
  4. Grumulkin

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    My technique (yea, I had to do this at least once) is to put the case in the resizing die and pop the primer out whilst looking the other way.

    Primers aren't like what you see in the movies (i.e., a car being hit with small arms fire and going up in a fireball that levels buildings for miles around).
     
  5. Walkalong

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    Just decap it. It will be fine. Reuse it afterwards.
     
  6. bullseye308

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    I have done that a time or two and reprimed like normal with no problems. Slow and easy should be fine. I even did it with the Lee decapper and base, just don't whack it hard. Light taps and it comes out no problem. Probably would not advise that one without all the safety precautions. If you don't know them, use a press. Eye and ear protection just in case.
     
  7. The Bushmaster

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    NO OIL NEEDED. Just run the case through your resizing die and reuse the primer and reload the case. No problem. Do be a bit more observant and you won't have it happen again (like me:eek:)...
     
  8. SquirrelNuts

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    You should always wear safety glasses anyway. I had my dad come over on Saturday to demonstrate reloading to him. He sat in a chair about five feet from my press and he had on safety glasses and he wasn't touching anything.
     
  9. Chawbaccer

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    Safety glasses and hearing protection. Then just pop it out.
     
  10. The Bushmaster

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    Chawbaccer...Don't say "pop"....
     
  11. kanook

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    I have a shelf sitting above my reloading bench. Any time I make a booboo I put it on the shelf to serve as a remindeer to make sure that I don't do it again.
     
  12. jcwit

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    One more time, primers ignite from sudden INPACT not PRESSURE.
    Gently push it out and reuse it, it will still go bang.
     
  13. russ45

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    Push it out and re-use it. I have done it many times. Don't really know how they get turned over but it happens.
     
  14. jfh

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    as others have said, just pop it out with your decapper die.

    An added bit of info is that you may have NOT had that primer upside down in the tray when you started--I've had them flip completely when the primer fead-and-seat routine is not completely in sync (manually or automatically).

    Jim H.
     
  15. rcmodel

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    Putting oil on it is about as reliable as peeing on it!

    Primers are sealed with a foil disk, and lacquer on top of that. Oil might be able to get through it, or not.

    At any rate, it isn't reliable enough to depend on it working.

    But as already noted, you don't need to kill the primer anyway.

    Punch it out with the sizing die.
    If the anvil is still in place, you can use it again.

    rc
     
  16. jacob.elliott

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    yep, don't worry
    punch it and reuse it
     
  17. Afy

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    I have the reverse problem...
    Loaded a case with powder, seated and crimped bullet.
    No primer... :(
     
  18. Funderb

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    ^ hahahaha.
    Like carrying water in a net.
     
  19. NCsmitty

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    I'm surprised that you said that rcmodel.

    The only case primers that I have are CCI and they do not have foil over the compound. The 209 Win primers do have a cover. A drop of oil on the CCI will cause them to go inert, lacquer or not.

    I only mentioned the safe method of working with a mistake like the OP mentioned, because we get hundreds of new reloaders here of late and the responsible response is to utilize, in my mind, the safest method for salvaging some components.
    You know how some people can even have a problem with a Bic lighter let alone an explosive component like a live primer.
    They can put their eye out.

    NCsmitty
     
  20. The Bushmaster

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    NCsmitty...When I started reloading over 20 years ago I installed lots of primers upside down and sidways. Even when I tried to set on off with the decapping/resizing die I could not do it. The ram just will not move fast enough to "strike" the primer. Rather pushing it instead. Newbees be darn. Use the resizing/decapping die and push it out and if it is not damaged reuse it.

    This is the proper technic for removing "oops" primers...

    I've installed primers that have been cut in half by the priming die and plunger. Loaded the case (no powder or bullet) in my Colt SAA and be damned. It fired...
     
  21. Walkalong

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    Test the oil theory yourself. Take a couple of primers, add oil, WD-40 or whatever, let them soak a couple of days, and then seat and fire them. It is hard to kill an undamaged primer. :scrutiny:

    Let us know how it goes. Pictorial documentation would be good too. :)
     
  22. Steve H

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    You mean I'm not the only one that has done that??????
     
  23. NCsmitty

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    I hear ya The Bushmaster, and agree with you as an experienced reloader.
    But in these days of litigation and lawyers and some quite ignorant noobs, my advice is based on eliminating any possibility of accidental problems.
    There are some people who can farg up a wet dream.

    NCsmitty
     
  24. Walkalong

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    Nope. :eek:

    Waste of a good bullet, since I don't own a puller. :(
     
  25. The Bushmaster

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    Ya have a point NCsmitty, but......

    Oh just put the powder back in the case one kernal at a time and prime the sucker, Walkalong...And no swearin' while yer at it...
     
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