Bears at my campsite

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most California Blackies will run if you make loud noise. allthougha few years ago when there was a bad drought for a few years running, they were coming out of the hills and getting aggressive into campsites becuase there was a lack of food and water.. at least thats what the rangers said.
The last time I went camping at Lake Tahoe (3 years ago, at Camp Richardson, a private commercial campground) the bears were everywhere every night. The reason was 1) the camp didn't empty the trash cans often enough, so there was garbage spilling out of the "bear proof" cans, 2) almost everyone kept food in their tents or outside their tents in ice chests sitting on the picnic table.

When the bears would tear the ice chests open, people would come out and yell and scream, and even throw stones at the bears. The bears were so used to people, they wouldn't even look at the humans! They would just calmly eat everything and amble away. The only time I saw anyone scare one away was when one guy started lighting up "cherry bomb"-type firecrackers and throwing them at the bears.

One big dumb guy (human, I think) threw a very large rock (about softball size) at one of the larger bears, and hit it smack in the right eye. The bear waved his paw at his head like he was waving off a pesky fly and never even stopped foraging through the food!

Needless to say, I'll never go there again. It was an urban nightmare among the pine trees. The bears were a pleasure compared to the people!

I didn't know that it was actually illegal to store food inside your tent, but it makes sense. Camp Richardson is not NFS land, so no rangers. Years ago, I used to backpack into wilderness areas, and we'd do the "hang the food from the tree limb" thing. It worked well. I hear that in Yosemite, the bears have gotten wise to it, and now know to gnaw the ropes in two and a tasty treat will drop from the sky!

As far as shooting bears, I was only passing on some info I had been told. Spray sounds like it might be effective.

Oh, yes, as many have said, California only has black bears, not brown. The only brown bears left in CA are on the flag!
 
If I saw a bear eating away my food hun from a high tree limb, Mr Bear would quickly find out I don't store my guns in trees, and not unloaded neither....

But maybe I'll be brutal and feed them with a "original" US Navy SOS. Will teach them a lesson. :)
 
Seen an article, last year, that said that the bears in Yellowstone would single out certain makes and models (mostly Toyota & Nissan) to raid. They would simply peal the window frame back and rip up everything (sometimes for a stick of gum). The article said that the bears would find; say a red Toyota Celica with lots of goodies in it and for the next several days break into every red Toyota Celica it ran across.
 
Do not store food in your car unless you want it destroyed. They can easily break the window out of your car and can even rip the door open. Absolute truth!!!
 
remember, although it's not ok to carry in a national park, it IS ok in a national forest, if the forest is in a state where you are legally allowed to carry. this does not include a national building, which is the visitors center or ticket booth or heck maybe even the occasional bathroom. cabins are ok.

that being said, one can't guaranteee that every ranger is fully aware of this regulation, even if you're in the right.

here's the mumbo jumbo:

Under Federal Code:
TITLE 36--PARKS, FORESTS, AND PUBLIC PROPERTY
CHAPTER II--FOREST SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
PART 261--PROHIBITIONS
36CFR261.8
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/get-cfr.cgi
it states "... The following are prohibited to the extent Federal or State
law is violated:"

basically means it's up to the state you're in.

here in the commonwealth of virginia, they specifically mention how their law applies:

4VAC15-40-60
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+reg+4VAC15-40-60
(see section G)
where it states "... nor shall it prohibit possession and transport of
loaded concealed handguns where the individual possesses a concealed
handgun permit as defined in §18.2-308 of the Code of Virginia."

heard that a few people have called the parks around here and teh rangers are starting to express the same opinion. they ask politely that you not open carry, however, even though it's technically legal, because it could startle some other people and be a hassle.

CAVEAT: I AM NOT A LAWYER.
 
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