I hope this is a nudge to get the pendulum swinging back toward the DA/SA hammer fired direction...
You're comparing a metal framed gun to a polymer framed gun.The three draw backs I find are: the grip, the caliber, and the price. I really like the 92FS grip. I never understood all the hate it gets. In today's ammo market, I really do not want to add yet another caliber to own, buy, and/or reload-especially 380ACP, which is higher cost than 9mm. I'll give up 4 rounds of capacity over my XD-E. And at $800? Maybe if I were just buying my first ever EDC/CCW gun, and I didn't already own any other gun in 9mm. I would be more inclined to buy an 84 in 9mm though, if it were more competitively priced. (around $600 or so-my XD-E was $500, and I realize you have to pay something for the Beretta name)
Man, the old one had much better styling.
Can't get into the modern anesthetic.
You're comparing a metal framed gun to a polymer framed gun.
How about a Beretta PX4 Compact https://www.beretta.com/en-us/px4-storm-compact/
WOW, never saw that coming! Since it looks like it's an all metal gun it's rather pricey with an MSRP of $799. I actually don't mind the rails so much as I use to keep my Model 84 around as my HD gun. And the Vertec grip is a lot easier for people like me with smaller hands to get a decent and comfortable grip on it.
The Beretta 84/Browning BDA was a pistol I wanted when I was young...and couldn't afford.
A couple years ago, a large number showed up surplus from Israel, at bargain prices.
I picked one up, really without any serious use envisioned... Just wanted to try one out.
Well, I soon learned it is a fantastic pistol, seemingly made to fit my hand perfectly.
Utterly reliable. More accurate than a 380 has a right to be. Easily carried.
So, even though I have more powerful CCW pistols, the Beretta 84F gets a lot of carry.
This new version looks good to me, except I don't like the frame pic rail. I'd like to try the Vertech grip to see how it feels.
But, $800...
The three draw backs I find are: the grip, the caliber, and the price. I really like the 92FS grip. I never understood all the hate it gets. In today's ammo market, I really do not want to add yet another caliber to own, buy, and/or reload-especially 380ACP, which is higher cost than 9mm. I'll give up 4 rounds of capacity over my XD-E. And at $800? Maybe if I were just buying my first ever EDC/CCW gun, and I didn't already own any other gun in 9mm. I would be more inclined to buy an 84 in 9mm though, if it were more competitively priced. (around $600 or so-my XD-E was $500, and I realize you have to pay something for the Beretta name)
In my opinion they should have taken the opportunity to redesign it to be a locked breach pistol like a mini model 92, but keep the model 80 external dimensions, and make it available in 9mm and 380. In the year 2023 an $800 blowback 380 is frankly absurd to me.
Name brand metal frame guns certainly go for mo' money these days. S&W is but one example.
Poly frame $629.00 - https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/m-p-9-m2.0
Metal frame $899.00 - https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/m-p-9-m2.0-metal
And Beretta gives you an old school DA/SA hammer fired gun. Not some easier to produce striker gun.
I’d be willing to name brand metal frame gun price if it were a locked breech 9mm. Being a blowback 380 though I’d be hard pressed to find the value compared to a bersa thunder plus that is less than half as expensive.
.380 is an impotent cartridge not capable of serious self defense usages.
9mm is the bare minimum acceptable, and this is a huge gun for a pipsqueak cartridge and could easily be chambered in 9 Para.
I don’t get the appeal of this tarted up oversized mouse gun at all.
East side or west side?...should be OK for Cleveland, lol.
The Beretta may be a blowback, but the barrel comes out like a locked breech gun. Not to mention that I own a Bersa and a Cheetah and while both are good guns, the Beretta is in a completely different league in construction, fit, and finish.
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.380 is an impotent cartridge not capable of serious self defense usages.
9mm is the bare minimum acceptable, and this is a huge gun for a pipsqueak cartridge and could easily be chambered in 9 Para.
I don’t get the appeal of this tarted up oversized mouse gun at all.
West side. 12ga for East.East side or west side?
Understand.West side. 12ga for East.
According to the TFBTv video it doesn't. Something they revised the magazines to work better with hollow pointsThe 80X sounds interesting. I’d be imterested if it uses my 84 magazines.
Maybe that has been answered already and I missed it.
I like the 80 series pistols. I have an 84, 84F, 85, and 81.
If the thumb safety is now a decocker, wouldn’t a G type variant make more sense?
If the thumb safety is now a decocker, wouldn’t a G type variant make more sense?
According to the TFBTv video it doesn't. Something they revised the magazines to work better with hollow points