Beretta M9 Failures

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Well, I was actually considering purchasing a new M9.....not anymore.....I'm stickin' to my Pre 80's Colts.

Guess I'm just a Colt man at heart.........
 
SwampWolf said:
So, you got a bad one. These things happen. No need to condemn an entire production of pistols because you had a bad experience with one. Many people with much experience in terms of using the Beretta in combat venues swear by it, not at it. I think the M9's reputation as a reliable and accurate pistol by most people is a well-deserved one. It's certainly been my experience.

Exactly. When looking at the big picture, the majority of the hundreds of thousands of service men and women trust the M9.

I've had worse luck with my old G23C and G19 than my Berettas. Should that mean I be ignorant and say ALL Glocks are a piece of shi*? No. Even though I've had bad luck with Glocks, I still believe they're awesome pistols, I just don't care to own them, atleast until they make a compact 10mm.

JR47 said:
Really? What crystal ball did you use to observe him? I would be looking at the gun, myself. He's obviously not new to the platform, as he said that two of his magazines were magazines were personal ones, from his earlier issued M9, in Iraq.


And he has yet to name those personal mags. For all we know they're triple k or pro mags. THE BEST mags for the 92/96 series is factory Beretta and Mecgar. As of right now, id still say its a mag issue.
 
I've owned a 92FS for close to 20 years, never once did the weapon fail to function as desgined.

Only time I've seen a Beretta have a problem was when I did a small hitch in the NG. Seems they like to run their pistols dry. Fools. Plus the cheapest mags you could find.

I would take a 92FS any day of the week.
 
Not M9's but "a bad gun"

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Get one that works, 100%, from the get-go, then you keep taking care of it and it will take care of you..

You just got a bad gun, nothing more, nothing, certainly, less..

For all the M9's out there and in civi use that just keep on going and going, says that you were unlucky at what was handed you..

Hand it back and let them hand you a good one - to start - then such a gun will take care of you like you take care of it, for the long run, together.


Luck,



Ls
 
My personal mags are Beretta factory magazines, approximately a year and a half old, decent springs. I really think that the problem with my pistol is the extractor- it seems to just not work as advertised.
 
Unfortunately, much of the military has been trained to believe lubrication is a sin. It's either lube generously, and get a dust magnet, or underlube, and have too much friction. Almost lose-lose. Of course we won't invest in graphite...lol
 
What exactly DOES the Army do when a gun seriously malfuctions? When my gun has an extraction or functioning problem, I take it out of service and eitherfix it myself, or get it fixed. How tough is it to red line it, and get it into repair?
 
Depends on the unit, funding, and staff. For my unit, a note will be made, and the next time we draw them from the arms room, I'll get that pistol, with no changes made. 'Deadlining' it here usually means I get to explain my actions to the company 1SG and lose some rank.

Here, Army weapons suck.
 
I own 5 Beretta 92 Variants, with plans to buy 1 more at least. My 92FS is my concealed carry as well. They all work 100%.

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My personal mags are Beretta factory magazines, approximately a year and a half old, decent springs. I really think that the problem with my pistol is the extractor- it seems to just not work as advertised.

Did you try slipping a round under the extractor with the slide off? Maybe you have an off-spec extractor or the brass is off.
 
I just have a hard time believing it was anything but shooter induced. I know I've only had to deal with M9s for 8 years, but I've never even heard of anybody in any of my units having the problems described. I've been issued dang new new, and beat beyond belief pistols, with nary a problem.

They aren't my favorite pistol, but that's a size issue. I will never belittle an M9s accuracy or reliability, because they are both excellent.
 
If you were shooting ammo that you could see was marked Winchester, you almost surely weren't shooting the 124 Grain M882 ammo, you were shooting frangible ammo that has been widely supplied to the Army and Air Force for the last 7 or 8 years by Winchester for training. If that's the case, the military's frangible training ammo causes significantly more problems than the regular ball-type ammo.

As a weapons instructor for 6 years with the Air Force, I saw virtually zero M9 malfunctions with the regular ammo, but the frangible ammo caused some significant issues. If you were using real M882 ammo, that gun was seriously messed up. I have shot hundreds of thousands of rounds though these weapons and seen millions run through them. I have the utmost respect for the M9. It is exceptionally reliable if properly maintained. Unlike the AR-15 platform, I have never actually seen a factory "dud" that a problem could not be easily identified and fixed.

Just my two cents.
This^^^! I've never seen a Beretta fail as the OP has reported, if the OP is being truthful, the gun was broken, or the ammo was defective, likely if it happened at all it was shooter induced or very defective ammunition....
 
my buddy took a perfectly clean 92f to the field with me one day and it wouldn't run for anything. I took it apart and it was completely dry. I raided a nearly tractor for some motor oil and the gun ran like a top.
 
M9 Failures

I had problems with mine jammimg and stovepiping with five different magazines. Cleaned and lubricated the gun and the same thing occurred. I was thinking about selling it but tried a different ammo and have since put 250 rounds through with zero problems.

Bryan
 
I don't know what's wrong with my issue weapon, but I'm sure not in a hurry to buy one myself.
 
Limp wristing....

He would have to have the strength of a 5-year-old to limp wrist a M9 to the point of failing to extract. Having owned three of them, your statement does not hold water.
 
He would have to have the strength of a 5-year-old to limp wrist a M9 to the point of failing to extract. Having owned three of them, your statement does not hold water.
Well! I own six of them, like any semi auto pistol, they can be limp wristed! Strength has little to do with it, technique on the other hand....
 
Considering that I've never had a problem with other M9s or any other automatic, I'm pretty damned sure that I know how to shoot.

I reckon I got a lemon. Said lemon is not alone in the arms room.
 
I'd love to go to El PAso to trouble-shoot the problems with those M9's. It wouldn't take a gunsmith too long to figure out where the problems were with each gun. It is a shame that the Army doesn't have gunsmith-level-trained armorers to fix these sort of things, or return the guns to Beretta, if they are THAT far out of whack.
 
It sounds as if the real failure is with the unit leadership, if no is willing accept responsibility for weapon maintenance :( .
 
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