Best 9mm type

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So, I'll be delving into my first competition at the beginning of September. I'll be taking my S&W Compact 9mm with the 4 inch barrel for my first time out. Sights are adjusted, I have 5 magazines and magazine pouches for 9mm and a holster.

I have heard that 5 inch barrels are more accurate and used by many competition users. I'm pretty good with my S&W compact, but Don't think I'll be as accurate as those with longer barrels. I know safety is first and foremost in competition shooting with ranking a distant second. But I have competed once before in an indoor range. Needless to say, having to compete with guys that had Red Dot sights made me not try as hard. Unless you're Jerry Miculek or Hickock45, Red Dots are easier to get a closer shot group over traditional sights. I did very well over 3 other traditional sight participants, but the two with Red Dots, yeah they were much better. So while Safety is paramount, if it's not to compete, then why compete. So yes, there is a little competitive spirit vs getting a participation trophy which is the reason for looking at semi's with 5 inch barrels.

I have a SAR 2000 with a 4.5 inch barrel, but the rear sight isn't adjustable and I haven't heard of others using SAR to compete. Plus it's hammer fired and they say new folks tend to get DQ'd because they forget to put the hammer down and the firearm on safe.

I was thinking of purchasing a 9mm firearm with a 5 inch barrel in the near future. and have narrowed it down to the following

M&P 5" barrel
Canik 5.2" barrel (match barrel)
Springfield Armory 5" barrel (match barrel)

I've had great luck with my S&W's, but have installed APEX triggers on all of my S&W's to make them more comfortable for my liking while noticeably increasing accuracy. It's also not optics ready, which isn't a non-negotiable, but it seems like the future of competitions is going to trend to Red Dot Sights. I'd like to think I'm pretty good with iron sights, but Red Dots make is so much quicker and accuracy is easier vs traditional sights.

The Canik has a great trigger out of the box and is Red Dot ready. The cost is very competitive. The only reason I hesitate is because I purchased a Canik SC Elite and have been having failure to return to breech issues. It's gone back to the factory twice, and I still have issues with it. Not having any experience or attended any competition matches, I don't know its use has increased in competition shooting.

The last one in my list is the Springfield Armory XDM. I have the 9mm Mod 2 4 inch barrel. SA also has a decent trigger out of the box and a fiber optic front sight. The only uniqueness compared to the other two is that it feels like it sits on top of my hand. I am accurate with it, but because the gun feels like it sits on top of my hand I feel like I'm balancing it to get the sights lined up. Not that I couldn't get used to it, but it is noticeable when comparing it to my S&W.

Would it be better to go with S&W knowing that I'll have to spend money on a trigger upgrade-plus not having it red dot ready- take a another chance on Canik, or go with SA.

Or will the one inch not make a difference in competition shooting.

TIA

CH
 
OK, I shot IPSC before USPSA diverged, now IDPA and USPSA.

Your Plastic M&P Compact will enter IDPA Compact Carry Pistol, can shoot Stock Service Pistol. Will be USPSA or IPSC Production, can shoot Limited. I don't know of a uniform set of rules for the all steel action matches that are springing up but would expect it to be close to USPSA run n gun with time plus scoring.

Couple of things on your Next Gun Hunt.
A 5" barrel will have an advantage in sight radius but does not signify with an optic.
Different guns and different sights compete in separate Divisions. If you are in Carry Optics and I am in Stock Service Pistol we are competing for our own trophies. Do we look at the overall standings? Sure.

The trend is to heavier guns, CZ and TZ are selling well, but there are still a lot of Glock, SW, and XD plastic pieces out there, Sig, too. Caniks are scarce, 2% at IDPA World Championships.

Shoot a while before you shop.
 
I wouldn’t buy anything to compete in a competition before you even attend one.

I would make at least the first trip as a spectator. Talk with the folks about playing and you will have a much better idea of what to look at for purchase and be expected to do with the equipment and what division you want to play in for starters.

If it’s a decent sized group of folks you might even be able to get some slightly used equipment that someone bought to start with that they later replaced with something better once they continued to play.
 
I wouldn’t buy anything to compete in a competition before you even attend one.

I would make at least the first trip as a spectator. Talk with the folks about playing and you will have a much better idea of what to look at for purchase and be expected to do with the equipment and what division you want to play in for starters.

If it’s a decent sized group of folks you might even be able to get some slightly used equipment that someone bought to start with that they later replaced with something better once they continued to play.

THX, the only thing I have bought so far is a couple of magazines to have 5 for the competition, magazine holders from eBAY and a chair with a sunshade (recommended).

I was just trying to get a feel on THR thoughts. to give me ideas on what to pay attention to in terms of firearms. One of the comments made by Jim Watson kept referring to plastic guns (polymer). This is something good to look at when at my first competition Polymer vs metal and manufacturer type.

Another area to look at -for me since I'm left handed but right eye dominant- is left handed shooters and the types of firearms used and techniques. Based on my OP, I'll definitely be looking at which brand left handed users lean towards and be asking why.

Thanks again.
 
Your M&P is fine. And don't worry about the red dot guys, you don't compete against them, they are in their own division.

If I was going to buy a new polymer 9mm to compete with it would either be a CZ p10f or a SIG p320x5. I haven't handled a Canik yet but the people who have them rave about them.
 
I'd start with a full size pistol so you dont get too discouraged early on in the process if you cant keep up with those in ESP/SSP (assuming IDPA is your thing). It will allow you to be bit more proficient while learning the rules. But if you're not one to get discouraged easily, shoot whatever youre most proficient in and learn.

Caniks are great cost effective pistols to use.. their price points are awesome. If you find that you like the rules and game, you can proceed from there..

Long story short.. shoot with what you have and flex up or down based on how much you get hooked. I started with my piddly little conceal carry .40 XD and found I had so much fun there I got other pistols for different divisions. Dont worry too much about the gear early on til you start getting into Tier matches.
 
THX. I'll be going with my 4 inch S&W 9mm. The only thing I've purchased was an inexpensive OWB holster, magazines & holders (didn't have any magazine holders), and a chair with cover. That's because they say it gets hot at the range. August in Texas is typically the hottest month of the year.
 
I didnt realize youre also in SA.. I'm also in the 210. Check out www.texastactical.net, they run aa monthly IDPA match, PM me if you have questions.. there's an IDPA match this Sunday at Cedar Ridge Range, go get it, barring any wifey issues, I should be there too..
 
I didnt realize youre also in SA.. I'm also in the 210. Check out www.texastactical.net, they run aa monthly IDPA match, PM me if you have questions.. there's an IDPA match this Sunday at Cedar Ridge Range, go get it, barring any wifey issues, I should be there too..
Cool. I was looking at the ASSCA match first. But my chair came in today, so I should be gtg. I'll look up the times for it.

THX

CH
 
If Mike is directing it, it should be first rate.

I have shot a few regionals at River City, one was one of my favorite matches of all times, another is tied for the worst Charlie Foxtrot of all times for scoring.
 
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