Bit by a dog!

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JamisJockey

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I'm a fairly serious cyclist. It tops my hobby list. Yesterday, I was 4 miles from home on a 35 mile ride and had to pee pretty badly. I was in a residential/golf course community, and pulled into a little ballpark at the bottom of a ravine, hit the latrine. As I pulled into the parking lot, I had to circle to wait to cross the road and go left, due to traffic. I noticed a dog that ran back across the road and into the wooded backyard of a house. As soon as I crossed and turned left, the road started uphill. My speed was about 5mph, and I had 0 momentum. The dog bolted out of the woods, and didn't hesitate. My options quickly turned over:
A) sprint. Nope, uphill, i've got no momentum. The dog will drag me down and maul me.
B) Yell at dog. This has stopped way over a dozen dogs in thier tracks.
C) dismount and place bike between me and dog.
I opted for a combination of B and C. As I was yelling in my best DI voice "Bad dog, no!" I dismounted. I was about to get my right leg over the bike, but the dog had covered the 15' (this all happened in a second or two, tops) and came right up to me, biting me on the right butt check. I pushed down on the dogs head (almost a punch) and the dog backed up enough for me to get over the bike. The dog came back towards me, and I squirted it in the face with my water bottle. The kids that lived at the house got it to back off.
(Tactical mistake #1: I purused the animal into the woods, where it and another large dog (both were over 100lbs) were with the kids that lived there.I was pretty pissed...)
I circled around to the front of the house, contacted 911 and the owner. Ambulance checked me out, animal control came, Wife took me to the ER. No stitches, wound debrided, abut a 1/2" long 1/8" deep wound. Little blood loss, plenty of oozing.

After action: There is no freaking way I could have deployed a firearm or pepper spray from concealment in time this case. Once I got behind cover (the bike), I could have either shot or sprayed the dog. I would think that pepper spray would have been effective enough. As a compromise, I plan on carrying spray again (I used to, and then quit out of complacency). Concealing a firearm in cycling clothes isn't an easy proposition.
Lessons learned: Not all dogs respond to authority. Some are flat out territorial and want a piece of your arse (literally). Dogs are faster than you think. I barely had enough time to pick a course of action before the attack commenced.
 
Back when I was still cycling, the random dog attacks always kept things interesting. You can outsprint a dog, even starting from a standstill with no momentum. You just have to try hard enough. Those rabid german shepherds make for some great motivation.

Generally, any dog that's big enough to take you down off the bicycle is too big to run fast over long distances. All you have to do is get up to a decent speed (20 mph was usually enough for me) and keep it going for a few hundred yards. The dog will tire or give up, satisfied that you're out his territory. Easy.

There were a few times when the enemy dog was smart enough to see me coming and get in the center of the road, ready to block my passage. Those were always the most interesting, because the dog would always try to dive right under my tires. I never came up with a good solution to that.

Carrying a weapon while cycling is pretty tough. I usually had a good neck knife on me, and a can of mace attached to the frame by velcro tape. I never needed either, so I can't comment on how effective they would be against an attacking dog.
 


Not when one is going uphill. I was pretty well at a disadvantage. If I had a flat or downhill spot, or a rolling start, It would have been a nonevent. I'm an amateur racer, mostly riding in criteriums, and can sprint up to 31 or so on flat ground with a slight headwind. I placed top 5 a few times last year in the Cat5 group.
 
So is the dog going to be destroyed? I hope so. Next time it'll be a little kid.

I know of a girl who was bitten by a dog in the face as a kid. She now has a permanent scar for her troubles.
 
I manage to CCW while running, but I agree it wouldn't have helped in this situation - not enough time for Squat, Jack. And my running is marathon distance running, so it is long distance as well.
 
I was a competetive cyclist for many years and I ran into this problem a bunch. The best thing I ever found was a frame bike pump. I found one that had a big heavy metal head on it. I didnt carry it for the pump, I carried it as a weapon. Since it was on the top tube it was very fast to deploy. I have smacked about 100 dogs(same one about 20 times) with it over the years. I never had one not back down from that. One of the areas I rode in was on the indian reservation and there were loose dogs all over the place. The two or three times I got within arms length of a bear while mountain biking I didnt try the same method. :) I used the "crap your pants while sprinting away as fast as possible method".
 
Around here, in the spring of '01, a 75-year old man was knocked off his bike by a huge dog and died of a neck injury, despite his helmet. The dog had been the subject of prior Animal Control visits.

I've frequently used my 4-oz can of OC which is velcroed to the frame. I also try to keep my other dog medicines concealed. I hope owners are noticing well-armed bicyclists go by, and think twice about letting their damn dog off their property.
 
In Minnesota there is specific legislation allowing citizens to put down aggressive dogs off their property and off a leash.
 
Matt
Do you have a specific link to that by chance? I've looked and looked in the past and haven't found anything.

I know where my dad lives people shoot on sight, although he is outstate. I'm on the very edge, but would still have to deal with a "7 couunty metro" sheriff :cuss:
 
The mace velcroed to the bike frame sounds good. I fish in remote areas of California known for bears. I carry a large can of guaranteed bear mace. Might not be worth a hoot in a real confrontation, but it makes me feel better.
;)
 
Dogs bite what is closest to them. Feed him something that won't prevent you from getting your gun. Pop him in the head. Crappy tactic I know, but if I have a dog hanging from my non firing arm and cap him, I take that one to court, happily.
 
I've had this problem but it is unusual for a single dog to actually go for the bite. For me, the best response has been to challenge the dog by squaring off with him, eyeballing him and hissing as he comes. This presents the ultimate threat and most dogs will break off but if one comes through you have to be ready to take him out.
 
I'm sure deadly force would have been authorized. The dog was easily 100lbs, and came back for more after the initial bite, but when I got ready to heave a water bottle at it, it changed its mind.
I'm not overly interested in carrying while riding, but I am going to be picking up some spray, and possibly an asp-baton. Its a tradeoff, a 5oz ish can of oc spray vs. a 4lb gun on a bike ride. The upside is I can be less discriminate with the spray. If a dog so much as looks at me crosseyed it might get sprayed.
I used to carry a small can, tucked under the leg of my bike shorts. Probably carry a bigger can either on the bike frame or seatpost, or in my jersey pocket.
Secamp: Nope. I had almost no response time, the dog was maybe 15' away. I was at the bottom of a small hill, (and it came from the same side of the road I was on) so it wasn't really downhill to turn around, anyways. Besides, dogs usually give chase, it kicks thier predatory instinct into overdrive. At the end of a 30 mile ride, the day after a race+16 miles of hard riding, I didn't have much in my legs. I've had to stop before and had dogs stop and give me a 'now what' look.
Jeeper: I recently saw a springloaded frame pump, meant to go between the head and seat tube. The ends are bone shaped to create a snug fit. A) its alot longer than a regular pump B) its easy to get out. I've thought about getting one, I'm a Co2 junkie, though.

Yes, the dog is being put down. Found that out yesterday. They have another dog, it also gave chase, but backed down at the last second. I plan on filing the South Jordan City animal control # into my cellphone. If I see the other dog, it will get reported.
Here is a link to the damage. Its now got a huge bruise on one side of it, from sitting on it all day at work yesterday. Warning, it is a picture of my butt.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88/Atc1man/cycling/Dogbite4-6-05.jpg
 
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Owwwwwwwwwww!

(my eyes, not your butt ;) )

Big 4-oz can of OC spray sounds like a good bet to me.

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halvey, here's the MN law cite you were looking for. By the way, "hydrophobia" is an old name for rabies (the statute was written in 1939):

http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/...=347.17&image.x=0&image.y=0&image=Get+Section
347.17 Any person may kill dogs in certain cases.

Any person may kill any dog that the person knows is
affected with the disease known as hydrophobia, or that may
suddenly attack while the person is peacefully walking or riding
and while being out of the enclosure of its owner
or keeper, and
may kill any dog found killing, wounding, or worrying any
horses, cattle, sheep, lambs, or other domestic animals.
 
Fanny pack with baby glock is my suggestion. We ride an old rail road bed in Bear Gulch (yep, thats where my handle and name of my shop came from). It is named that because it has bears. You cam ride this from Ashton to West yellowstone MT about 70 miles through Idaho backcountry. I have been known to pack the glock 22 in the velcro open tool bag.
 
Thanks for the link Matt. Actually I was suprised how broad the wording is.

"Any person may kill any dog...that may suddenly attack..."

Also, if concealment is a problem, may I suggest one of the Kel Tec's?
 
Concealment is a major problem. Its just going to have to be a personal tradeoff: High speed low drag for a lower self defensive ability. Honestly, this is the first four or two legged attack I've had.
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Thats me on the left, wearing a vest over my cycling jersey. Not exactly good conealment wear.
 
You could probably fit a shoulder holster for a small-ish gun under the vest, and leave it partially unzipped. Fairly good concealment, pretty fast, accessable while sitting, not as much of a chance of falling on it if you fall. A fanny pack might work too.

Carrying a gun in addition to pepper spray would be a really good idea. Not just for dogs, but the owners as well. You never know quite how much offense someone may take to you spraying/shooting/threatening/looking at funny/yelling at their "fur-child."
 
You could probably fit a shoulder holster for a small-ish gun under the vest,

You're looking at cool weather clothing. Most of the riding season I'm dressed in a tight fitting jersey and shorts. Other than a fanny pack, there is no good way to carry.
 
I'm glad you posted this as I'm about to get back on the bike and needed to be reminded (I've not ridden in a LONG time).

I know you've said this is your first attack but I've been harrassed by dogs chasing the bikes all my life. It is not a comforting thing.
 
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