I only have a few with wood and blued steel left.It's so far back in the safe I won't get a pic up,but my favorite wood and blued rifle is the Remington 722 in 300 Savage that used to belong to my grandfather.It was all beat up when I got it because of too much time behind the truck seat.He despised that rifle because he was of a mind that a Winchester 94 was the only good deer gun out there.I refinished the stock with hand rubbed oil and cleaned it up and it looks great.I killed my first deer with it,and learned how to hunt and shoot with that old rifle.I hunted groundhogs with it in the summer and got pretty good with it once I figured how to shoot the Marble's sights at small targets like whistlepigs.I keep saying I'm going to hunt with it again some day,but I always wind up taking one of my new projects.The lines and look of that 722 are about as classic as classic gets,and it shoots pretty good to boot.But I'm mostly interested in functional,and synthetics and Dura-Coat are the preferred finishes.
Blued steel and walnut
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WestKentucky
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I have my marlin 336, and a marlin in 30 carbine I had planned to hunt with, but the scope blew up on it when I tried to sight it in and I haven’t yet replaced the optic. Iron sights are crap on that gun so it’s back in the safe til it gets new glass.
P5 Guy
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I'm more of a walnut and Parkerized steel guy.
BigBlue 94
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I seem to be the minority here, with only a few synthetic stocks and lots of wood and blued.
Ill throw up a few pics
Early 10/22 i just refinished
One of two Savage 99s
1890 mfg Win 1873 in 32-20
Ill throw up a few pics
Early 10/22 i just refinished
One of two Savage 99s
1890 mfg Win 1873 in 32-20
Thought you'd get a kick out of some pics of a really old friend. This is a National Match Springfield Model 1903, built in 1931. Star Gaged, with the appropriate "Star" punched on the lower lip of the muzzle, and the appropriate numbered polished bolt, I bought it 30 years ago from an estate up near Camp Perry Ohio. I found the listing in the old Shotgun News, long before the internet and GB made finding unique guns a lot easier.
There were two of them, both used by the previous owner in '31 at Camp Perry. I got the better of the two for $1600, a princely sum back then but the gun was well worth it. It came with the O'hare sight covers, front and rear, as well as the O'hare micrometer adjustment tool for setting precise elevation on the ladder rear sight.
Yes...I've shot it...took it to Perry in '06 to fire the Springfield Match...I shot it with a dispensation from the Match Director with my score sheet "X'd" out to preclude use as a contender in the match, as the rules disallowed any Nat'l Match configured rifle for competitive use. The day prior, sighting in day, I shot a 92 at 600 with it...but match day wasn't so good, as I dropped two rounds out of the stripper clip in Rapid Fire at 200. Lot's of fun and the gun was a real hit with the older armorers over in the Marine Team Gunsmith trailer. Built in '31, I shot it over the course again in '06...75 years later for its return to the old ranges up there on Lake Erie....
So here's the gun...beautiful work, I think you can agree, from the old Springfield Armory, back in the days before Nixon closed it down. I had it up there at the Armory Museum curator for a look see, and he'd never seen one in this condition....basically fired over the course a cpl times then put up for 75 years at the time. Also over to the NRA Museum near DC, where they made an offer to "hold on to it for me"...I declined!
It's retired now, as am I...both us of going into our dotage...but with fond memories of what good eye sight, coupled with superb bonding of blued steel and fine walnut could do back in the day. It's the finest rifle I've ever owned....Enjoy...Rod
There were two of them, both used by the previous owner in '31 at Camp Perry. I got the better of the two for $1600, a princely sum back then but the gun was well worth it. It came with the O'hare sight covers, front and rear, as well as the O'hare micrometer adjustment tool for setting precise elevation on the ladder rear sight.
Yes...I've shot it...took it to Perry in '06 to fire the Springfield Match...I shot it with a dispensation from the Match Director with my score sheet "X'd" out to preclude use as a contender in the match, as the rules disallowed any Nat'l Match configured rifle for competitive use. The day prior, sighting in day, I shot a 92 at 600 with it...but match day wasn't so good, as I dropped two rounds out of the stripper clip in Rapid Fire at 200. Lot's of fun and the gun was a real hit with the older armorers over in the Marine Team Gunsmith trailer. Built in '31, I shot it over the course again in '06...75 years later for its return to the old ranges up there on Lake Erie....
So here's the gun...beautiful work, I think you can agree, from the old Springfield Armory, back in the days before Nixon closed it down. I had it up there at the Armory Museum curator for a look see, and he'd never seen one in this condition....basically fired over the course a cpl times then put up for 75 years at the time. Also over to the NRA Museum near DC, where they made an offer to "hold on to it for me"...I declined!
It's retired now, as am I...both us of going into our dotage...but with fond memories of what good eye sight, coupled with superb bonding of blued steel and fine walnut could do back in the day. It's the finest rifle I've ever owned....Enjoy...Rod
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BigBlue 94
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Dang it man, you are rubbing salt in the wounds. Theres an 03A3 at the LGS I tried trading for but its on consignment! Its just a standard Remington though. Not a beauty like yours
adcoch1
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The like button is not enough for this one! That is a very cool rifle, and what a history. Thanks for sharing.
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I like how they made that rear sight real precise. Because when I crank that baby up to 2,850 yds. I want to know that I am going to connect!
A few words about that rear sight. The info below was garnered from a September 1943 printing of FM 23-10, "U.S. Rifle Caliber .30 M1903". At 323 pages, it covers any conceivable topic related to use of the M1903. Basic rifle nomenclature, cleaning, introductory rifle marksmanship....all the way to squad rifle exercises against aircraft, vehicles and personnel at extended ranges. For a rifleman, even today, it's a gold mine of information for the gold standard of infantry; the American Rifleman. Here are some high lights.
Troops were trained to shoot rapid fire with the open sight notch (known as the battle sight in military parlance)...trajectory of which was zeroed at 547 yards...and which required a hold ~15 inches low at 100. The Peep sight with a 0.046" peep installed required young eyes to be useful on the range and was calibrated at Springfield +-100 yds. This one using my loads for the old M72 Match 173 gr Military SPBT, requires a 375 yard setting for my 200 yd zero & a center of mass hold. The windage gage, is set by adjusting the front knob, the big one, for necessary windage corrections. Each of the graduations is a "Point" of windage, and the troops were taught to estimate the necessary windage in quarter points. Each graduation moves the impact point 4" at 100 yds. Fine work, indeed, and again, requires young eyes.
Windage: GI's were taught to estimate the amount of wind, then apply that correction to the sights when on the range. The formula was the range in hundreds x the velocity of the wind divided by 10 to give the necessary correction in 1/4 points. A direct cross-wind of 8 mph at 500 yds was worth 4 quarter pts of windage or one full graduation on the rifle's windage gage. A quartering wind, say from 11 o'clock, requiring half the windage. Complicated stuff for new draftees !!
The only reference to setting windage in combat, that I've found, was from Major Thomason's book: "Fix Bayonets". One story tells of our Marines after Belleau Wood, following German troops and picking them off at 500+ yards. The Germans had never encountered long range rifle fire of that accuracy before and it cost them dearly.
Springfield National Match Rifles were shot on the armory's range for accuracy and were rejected for match use unless they produced 3" groups at 200 yds...that's 1.5 MOA and that was while using the issue sights. This rifle, over 20 years ago now, easily met that standard with 46 gr of 4064 and either the M72 or Sierra 168 gr HPBT Match bullets or the military issued M72 Match load. It would do the same with Lyman's 308291 GC bullet...and still might...if I had the eyes to do the steering. Here's another pic.
Hope this is of interest...best regards, Rod
Troops were trained to shoot rapid fire with the open sight notch (known as the battle sight in military parlance)...trajectory of which was zeroed at 547 yards...and which required a hold ~15 inches low at 100. The Peep sight with a 0.046" peep installed required young eyes to be useful on the range and was calibrated at Springfield +-100 yds. This one using my loads for the old M72 Match 173 gr Military SPBT, requires a 375 yard setting for my 200 yd zero & a center of mass hold. The windage gage, is set by adjusting the front knob, the big one, for necessary windage corrections. Each of the graduations is a "Point" of windage, and the troops were taught to estimate the necessary windage in quarter points. Each graduation moves the impact point 4" at 100 yds. Fine work, indeed, and again, requires young eyes.
Windage: GI's were taught to estimate the amount of wind, then apply that correction to the sights when on the range. The formula was the range in hundreds x the velocity of the wind divided by 10 to give the necessary correction in 1/4 points. A direct cross-wind of 8 mph at 500 yds was worth 4 quarter pts of windage or one full graduation on the rifle's windage gage. A quartering wind, say from 11 o'clock, requiring half the windage. Complicated stuff for new draftees !!
The only reference to setting windage in combat, that I've found, was from Major Thomason's book: "Fix Bayonets". One story tells of our Marines after Belleau Wood, following German troops and picking them off at 500+ yards. The Germans had never encountered long range rifle fire of that accuracy before and it cost them dearly.
Springfield National Match Rifles were shot on the armory's range for accuracy and were rejected for match use unless they produced 3" groups at 200 yds...that's 1.5 MOA and that was while using the issue sights. This rifle, over 20 years ago now, easily met that standard with 46 gr of 4064 and either the M72 or Sierra 168 gr HPBT Match bullets or the military issued M72 Match load. It would do the same with Lyman's 308291 GC bullet...and still might...if I had the eyes to do the steering. Here's another pic.
Hope this is of interest...best regards, Rod
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P5....Very nice collection there...with some loving restoration on the stocks I'd guess. Have you shot them in CMP's Garand Matches. Did you acquire them through the CMP?
I had some luck with mine, a '43 vintage Winchester, 15 yrs ago here at Ft Knox, KY. We shot at 200 only, so you didn't need the 'come ups' for 300 and 600. Using the CMP issued M2 ammunition (a lower velocity than the original I'd guess), I managed to win the classified shooter category against some guys that had never had to contend with .30-06 recoil in sitting or prone. Their groups opened quite a bit as their positions deteriorated over the ten shots in sitting and prone.
My Winchester will do an honest 2.5 to 3.0 MOA at 100 from prone with sling, given good handloads and about an MOA bigger with M2, de-linked issue fodder. I've also got a Springfield M1 from '50 or '51, that does as well, but has been back through the arsenal a cpl of times so the parts are a mix. The Winchester is pretty much as issued with the exception of the non-WWll rear sight and bolt.
Story on the Winchester was this. We were up at Camp Perry, going through the racks of '03's and M1's my grown son & I, when I met a gulf war returnee and his sergeant doing the same. The younger guy was looking for an '03 that he could restore as a shooter and I offered to help out with the selection as there were literally dozens to choose from. I had a muzzle gage with me and we found one in pretty good mechanical order and with a stock that wasn't completely ruined, and he bought it. His sergeant thanked me, commented on their service in the sandbox, and off they went. While all this was going on, one of the gunsmiths behind the counter had been watching the proceedings, and when my son went up to finish his paperwork on a purchase, the smith asked me what I was looking for. I told him a decent M1 that I could use for over the course CMP matches. He went back in the storage area and returned with the Winchester, graded it "Service" and handed it over....it wasn't new, as issued, but it was by far the best one I'd ever seen and had little wear. I bought it, thanked him, and we parted...all of us happy with the day's events.
Best Regards, Rod
I had some luck with mine, a '43 vintage Winchester, 15 yrs ago here at Ft Knox, KY. We shot at 200 only, so you didn't need the 'come ups' for 300 and 600. Using the CMP issued M2 ammunition (a lower velocity than the original I'd guess), I managed to win the classified shooter category against some guys that had never had to contend with .30-06 recoil in sitting or prone. Their groups opened quite a bit as their positions deteriorated over the ten shots in sitting and prone.
My Winchester will do an honest 2.5 to 3.0 MOA at 100 from prone with sling, given good handloads and about an MOA bigger with M2, de-linked issue fodder. I've also got a Springfield M1 from '50 or '51, that does as well, but has been back through the arsenal a cpl of times so the parts are a mix. The Winchester is pretty much as issued with the exception of the non-WWll rear sight and bolt.
Story on the Winchester was this. We were up at Camp Perry, going through the racks of '03's and M1's my grown son & I, when I met a gulf war returnee and his sergeant doing the same. The younger guy was looking for an '03 that he could restore as a shooter and I offered to help out with the selection as there were literally dozens to choose from. I had a muzzle gage with me and we found one in pretty good mechanical order and with a stock that wasn't completely ruined, and he bought it. His sergeant thanked me, commented on their service in the sandbox, and off they went. While all this was going on, one of the gunsmiths behind the counter had been watching the proceedings, and when my son went up to finish his paperwork on a purchase, the smith asked me what I was looking for. I told him a decent M1 that I could use for over the course CMP matches. He went back in the storage area and returned with the Winchester, graded it "Service" and handed it over....it wasn't new, as issued, but it was by far the best one I'd ever seen and had little wear. I bought it, thanked him, and we parted...all of us happy with the day's events.
Best Regards, Rod
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Garandimal
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BS&W... chambered in 6.5x55mm Creedmoor's Grandpa.
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Beautiful, classic stock work, Garand. And that peep keeps it in the classic category too. Never worked with the 6.5x55, one of those grail cartridges that have escaped my fumbling over the years. Is that an extra sling mount position up on the bbl. al la British style?
Thx for posting. Rod
Thx for posting. Rod
Captcurt
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Gorgeous! Don't think that I would push down a barbed wire fence with that one. Excellent workmanship.
Captcurt
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This is the only centerfire that I have wearing wood, a Husky 300WM with a custom stock. I don't have a picture of my CZ 457, but it is pretty nice too.
MacAR
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All of my firearms are walnut and blued steel. Some are expensive, some aren't. But most all were made in a time period where craftsmanship was highly valued. I've never owned a synthetic stocked firearm, and hope I never do. There are some fine rifles in this thread, many of them make me jealous.
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Garandimal
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Yep, RUGER/Lipsey's Hawkeye African - w/ the rear leaf sight removed, and a NECG Ruger tip-off peep sight added.
Really a sweet rifle.
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Omaha-BeenGlockin
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For a long time I've only had stainless, matte blued, synthetic or hardwood---then a couple of years ago I picked up a couple Wingmasters 12 & 20 and then this year went sort of crazy with the blued /walnut adding a few nice shotguns and some Browning .22's.
Armored farmer
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This is my latest acquisition. I have yet to fire it.
blued steel and...? What? Plywood?
blued steel and...? What? Plywood?
adcoch1
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What cal?
It's my AC556F clone, without the fun switch. Someone before me drilled and tapped the receiver for a scope, or else I would have left it alone, but it wasn't a GB model. It shoots way better chopped down, 60yd open sights, Tech sight rear sight.
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