Bond Arms

sgt127 said:
No. They aren’t. I had ( I remember now) a .44 Special Model 7. All aluminum. Should not have gotten rid of it.

But, the .38 Special is plenty.

They made all stainless. Alloy frame and stainless barrels. And, all alloy. And, I think they were only offered in .38 Special and .44 Special.
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I'd say the one downside of the BA's is all steel weight. Heavy pocket rocket. I'd pick up a lighter American Derringer if a good price, or maybe the new BA Stinger. Davis and Bearman derringers look fun and cheap, but are said not to be carry/drop safe.
 
Autodidactic said:
The barrels truly are like Pringles. It's taken me all my might not to buy more than the .357/.38 and 9 mm barrel. I didn't because I also made some other firearms purchases in the intervening months. I'm thinking the .380 one next, mainly because I don't really need atrocious recoil with a bigger bore out of a pocket pistol. I do think though about the .410/.45 LC one just for the pocket shotgun effect.

I'd buy a .22 Magnum one maybe. .22 LR aren't made anymore. I almost got the .327 barrel, which could be a sweet multiple caliber option. I just don't know if I'm ready to branch out to new calibers just for a Bond Arms barrel. I already have .380 ammo on hand for example.


The Bond Arms are built like tanks. I have little doubt if I clean it and take care of it, it will last a long while.
Which ones do you have so far?
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I only have the 45/410.
I think a 38/357 may be a good addition to go with the 3 other handguns I have. A 6" 45/410 barrel may be fun to experiment with.
 
WisBorn said:
I only have the 45/410.
I think a 38/357 may be a good addition to go with the 3 other handguns I have. A 6" 45/410 barrel may be fun to experiment with.
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Nice, yes, I like my .38/.357 barrel. Honestly, the .38 caliber is probably the right balance of power and manageability for a derringer. The 9mm is another good option.
 
TTv2 said:
With double barrel shotguns your second shot is faster than anything a pump can do and more reliable than a semi. A two pop derringer where you have to cock the hammer for every shot is an inferior pistol to a snub revolver. If they weren't most people would have been carrying them for the past 140 years.

You can buy whatever you like, but the fact remains that a derringer today is a poor pistol to use for anything else outside of entertainment.
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There are two advantages you are forgetting.
1) Pocket shotgun. The Bond Arms 45/410 is smaller than the Judge and Governor. With shot shells it carries more pellets than the handgun shot shells.
2) Shooting from a coat pocket. With the lack of moving parts it will continue to function.

Now I normally don't carry my Rowdy as my primary carry, but as a second handgun I like its size and versatility in loads.
 
TTv2 said:
You can buy whatever you like, but the fact remains that a derringer today is a poor pistol to use for anything else outside of entertainment.
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So don't buy one.
I just don't understand your insistence that no one else should. You rail against the Bond for being a poor choice because other guns will do anything it does and better yet in the .410 pistol thread you say "I've often thought of getting a Lyman Plains pistol and having the bore reamed smooth."
Quite confusing.................................
 
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This thread got me so worked up I went across the river to my LGS and had him order a Texan for me (6" barrel, .410/.45 Colt, extended grip). It was in stock at Sports South so it should be here in a couple of days.
Just in case anyone is interested I'll post a pic of it with one of my 3" and the Roughneck 2.5" just for the visual comparison.
Christmas is a magical time. Especially when you buy your own present without the war department Mrs knowing.
 
Targa said:
I picked one up simply because I didn’t have a derringer in my collection and I have always likes the look of them. I haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet but am already looking at a 6” barrel for it.…:D

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Nice looking piece. You should definitely put some rounds through it. Assuming it is .45/.410, a .38/.357 barrel would be a good addition. Shooting .38 special in these is pleasant.
 
Old_Grouch said:
So don't buy one.
I just don't understand your insistence that no one else should. You rail against the Bond for being a poor choice because other guns will do anything it does and better yet in the .410 pistol thread you say "I've often thought of getting a Lyman Plains pistol and having the bore reamed smooth."
Quite confusing.................................
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Agreed. Also, to me, as a history nerd, I've always been into classical guns such as derringers. Just like people want a lever action, double barreled shotgun, old school SA revolver, or simply a classic revolver, etc.

I support the idea that it's a good idea to have at least one firearm that is modern, capable of defense in a real firefight, etc. The derringer shouldn't be one's first choice. But, after one has some real defense tools, it's totally okay to buy a functional collectible.

People collect far less functional items than firearms like derringers, such as art pieces.
Targa said:
I picked one up simply because I didn’t have a derringer in my collection and I have always likes the look of them. I haven’t had a chance to shoot it yet but am already looking at a 6” barrel for it.…:D

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TTv2 said:
You can buy whatever you like, but the fact remains that a derringer today is a poor pistol to use for anything else outside of entertainment.
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Except for a few "Just in Case" guns, if I'm honest with myself, I can't think of a single one of my guns that's for anything outside of entertainment. Not even my hunting guns - we don't really need the meat, and again being honest with myself, wild game meat costs us more than what we can buy meat at the supermarket for.;)
 
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.308 Norma said:
Except for a few "Just in Case" guns, if I'm honest with myself, I can't think of a single one of my guns that's for anything outside of entertainment. Not even my hunting guns - we don't really need the meat, and again being honest with myself, wild game meat costs us more than what we can buy meat at the supermarket for.;)
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Never thought of it that way.

With the exception of my EDC’s and home protection, all of my guns are just for entertainment.

Here’s a little Bond entertainment since this is a Bond thread.

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Very nice collection. I normally do not drool looking at a picture. Your collection of fine Bonds and barrels will make mouths wet for sure.

Ever since I bought my first Bond I have been searching the web and libraries reading everything I could about derringers. I found this excellent book at an on-line auction site for less than $10.
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During the mid 1800's these small pocket pistols were quite in vogue. So much though that many gunsmiths began making copies of them wherein the type of pistol were classified as being a derringer. From the east coast to the west coast and down to the Gulf they were extremely popular. Percussion derringers faded out in the 1860's and gave way to the cartridge derringer. Remington's fine over and under was made into the 1930's.

In Parson's book I found that Deringer made a pistol very small "peanut" model that the barrel was less than an inch. All original derringers today are quite collectable but the "peanut" commands top dollar. If you have a couple of minutes do a search on "peanut derringer".

Thanks for sharing your collection with us.

'loose
 
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As I note, I was reading a book on naval history and it was said that some of the turret crews on big ships carried derringers of old to use if the ship was going under and there was no way out of the turret. That's a downer.
 
WisBorn said:
Is anyone thinking about buying the Bond Arms Stinger when available?...
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YES! I have two Bond Arms derringers, one original Mama Bear with.45/.410 barrels and one Roughneck with.357 barrels. I want a stinger in either 9mm or .357/.38spl. Just because.

I try to find some situation and circumstance to EDC one of these, but I have handguns better suited for every circumstance. The Stinger might be thin enough to make the cut for some use, but even if it doesn’t I still want one.

They all make me smile.
 
im guessing that the upcoming b.a. stinger won’t be chambered in revolver ammo because its barrel is too thin to accommodate an extractor, as is found on regular, thicker b.a. revolver ammo barrels. a light/thin-gripped stinger chambered in 9mm would too much oomph for me, 380acp might be ok, but i would prefer it in 32acp.
 
jstert said:
im guessing that the upcoming b.a. stinger won’t be chambered in revolver ammo because its barrel is too thin to accommodate an extractor, as is found on regular, thicker b.a. revolver ammo barrels. a light/thin-gripped stinger chambered in 9mm would too much oomph for me, 380acp might be ok, but i would prefer it in 32acp.
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Old_Grouch said:
That's what I've ordered. .32 would be great too.
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If I get one it will be .380 acp, but if there was a .32 ACP, I'd get that. I'd really like a .32 ACP derringer.

BA makes the .327, which supposedly can use .32 ACP. But, right before I pulled the trigger on buying that barrel I read that .32 ACP doesn't actually work that well in such barrels, including derringers and revolvers.
 
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