Bond's PPK in "Doctor No", the novel.

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I've been on a bit of an Ian Fleming kick since the release of Casino Royale, and I've been reading the original Fleming novels, which I have never read before, mostly in order. Just today I read the famous passage in Doctor No where M forces 007, against his wishes, to turn in his .25 Beretta with the "taped skeleton grip", "sawn barrel", silencer, and chamois shoulder holster. Major Boothroyd, head of "Q" branch and described as the foremost expert on small arms in the world, recommends that Bond carry the bulkier Walther PPK, due to the fact that the grip would fit Bond's hand better, and moreover, chambered in .32, the PPK was a "stopper". Major Boothroyd was also scornful of silencers, on the grounds that they tended to snag on clothing. Bond resented having to surrender his Beretta, as he had used it for 15 years, never had a stoppage, and never missed when it counted.

As a secondary gun, Boothroyd is also ordered to provide Bond with a Smith & Wesson Airweight Centennial, hammerless to prevent snagging, in .38 special. Boothroyd acknowledges that the capacity is limited to 5 to lighten the gun, but after 5 rounds of that caliber, somebody would be dead.

So far, this is a fairly familiar story to Bond fans, or at least anyone who's seen the film of Doctor No, and amusing to gun people as the switch from .25 to .32 is something of a step sideways caliber-wise - in any case, not many people think of .32ACP as a powerful round. But as I read on, the head of "Q" Branch listed the other pistols under consideration as 007's sidearm - the Tokarev TT, Sauer 38H (called the Sauer M-38 in the book), and the Japanese M-14 (the Type 14 Nambu). :scrutiny: I can see 007 packing a Sauer 38H - fairly similar to the PPK in terms of size and caliber. But James Bond with a Tokarev? Kind of big and loud. Or, even less plausibly, a Nambu? Boothroyd ruled out the latter two as ammunition would hard to come by. That's hardly the best reason not to carry a Nambu, I would imagine.

Above all, shot placement, sureness of draw, and concealability are the most important things to 007, with caliber and capacity being far less significant concerns. Makes sense if you're an extremely well-trained spy or assassin. Anyhow, a great book so far, and with a couple of solid if slightly eccentric pages of gun stuff. :)
 
...the switch from .25 to .32 is something of a step sideways caliber-wise...
Dunno about that. I'd say that the .32ACP is a BIG step up from the .25ACP. Not because it's a powerhouse but because the .25 is only about as powerful as a .22LR.
 
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don't forget the british were using surpressed .22lr pistols in WWII, so .32ACP was a cannon.
 
I was under the impression that the Beretta that Bond was ordered to stop using in Dr. No (the film) was in .380?? (And replaced with the Walther in .32.)
Something about that pistol almost got him killed, or something to that effect, that is why he is 'relieved' of it.

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I agree that .32 is a step up from .25, but not nearly as big as a step up to 9x19 or even .380 would have been. I guess my point is that it just reads funny to see a .32 PPK being described as a "stopper".

I also agree that a PPK is a pretty sensible choice for the sort of work that Bond did in the novels, and a fairly common pistol, the scene in You Only Live Twice where Blofeld claims that Bond is the only person in the world that SPECTRE is aware of who carries one notwithstanding.

Actually, Fleming gets fairly technical and realistic at times about firearms, but equally often makes many errors of terminology and has improbable scenes of firearm usage. Overall, on a scale from 1 to 10, with "10" being a post by, say, 1911Tuner or JohnKSa, and "1" being an episode of The A-Team, I'd give Fleming about a 5 in the firearms realism department.
 
byf43, I believe that in the movie, the Beretta was viewed dimly because it had jammed at a critical moment. In the novel, it was chambered in .25ACP, and Bond stresses to M that he's never had a stoppage with the pistol. He is ordered to surrender it because of the weakness of the caliber, and if I recall correctly, because the silencer had snagged during his attempt to draw it in a climactic scene in From Russia With Love. Which, by the way, has a very cool SMERSH hollowed-out copy of War And Peace with an electrically-fired 10-round gun concealed inside, carried by the frightening Donovan "Red" Grant.
 
.32

I liked how Boothroyd described its impact as comparable to "a brick through a plate glass window." Unfortunately humans aren't made of glass.

I wonder how different the books and movies would have been if Fleming had decided to arm Bond with a Luger. Think the movies would still have him using it until 1997 like they did the PPK?
 
I wonder how different the books and movies would have been if Fleming had decided to arm Bond with a Luger. Think the movies would still have him using it until 1997 like they did the PPK?

Very doubtful.

Of course Bond dabbled with a few other Walthers over the years.

The P5 in Octopussy for example.
 
At least one henchman carried a Luger in one of the books I've read so far, although so far they seem to usually have Colt Police Positives. The funny thing is that I found myself siding with Bond over M - he liked the Beretta, it worked for him, he never missed, it never jammed, and he could conceal it well. So, what's the problem? Although I suppose I'd rather have the PPK, myself, if those were the only choices. I'm surprised various Colt and Browning pocket pistols were not considered. I wonder if Ian Fleming ever heard about the Makarov PM (which was entering service around the time he wrote Casino Royale)?

Incidentally, in Doctor No, Major Boothroyd is called "the Armourer", and is addressed as such by M. :cool:
 
If I correctly remember the origin of Bond's change to the PPK, one of Fleming's friends informed him of how under-powered and inappropriate the Beretta .25 was for Bond's work and gave him a list off the top of his head of possible replacements. Fleming used the Walther PPK because he liked the way it sounded.

Some of the pistols he was outfitted with in the John Gardner books are interesting.

Browning Hi-Power
H&K VP70 and P7
ASP 9mm
 
The Fleming novels are taking their time establishing the Bond "canon". I'm six books in, he's been drinking vodka martinis for a while, just got his PPK, but still drives a Bentley. It's an intriguing testament to the character that Ian Fleming created, and that Sean Connery brought to life onscreen, that the average teetotaller who abhors guns knows that 007 carries a Walther PPK and drinks vodka martinis - shaken, not stirred.
 
First Bond novel was Casino Royale.

As for .32 vs .25, keep in mind that .32s were used for years in Europe. JMB, IIRC, carried a .32/thought it was a good carry caliber.

Isn't the Nambu the pistol that would go off if you pushed the frame in the right spot? Then 007 could be giving up his gun carefully, then mash the sear and send a bullet into somebody.
 
I believe the Type 94 was the one with the exposed sear. The Type 14, on the other hand, is in my humble opinion the ugliest automatic pistol of all time (the Type 94 being the second-ugliest) - the subtle and sophisticated eye for proportion and beauty that is so typically Japanese did not extend to their sidearms, apparently. Good idea for a Bond escape scene though - it made me think of the bit in Thunderball when he escapes Fiona Volpe's car in the Rio traffic jam by dumping a passing drunk's rum bottle on to her cigarette lighter as she lights up.

As for 1911s, I could see 007 with a Colt Commander, which would have been available at the time, and was slim and short enough that Bond, who is described as a big man, could perhaps have concealed it well - he would have just needed to have his tailor let the tux out a little at the right spot. :)
 
John Gardner also had Bond using a Ruger Redhawk .44 mag.

Me thinks Gardner knew a bit more about guns, but not much.
 
*Shudders* I just looked at the Type 94... it looks like the father of all Hi-Points.


In Casino Royale (the book) I recall James chasing after Vesper's kidnappers with a .45 Colt revolver (New Service? SAA?) that he kept in the car for ant-materiel uses.
 
omg! i just looked up the nambu...that is the ugliest thing ive ever seen. this is def. not a bond gun. that is about as un-sleek and un-sexy as a gun could be. one scene of connery shooting a bad guy w/ that thing would be enough to scar me for life.
 
I read all the Bond books back in the 60's, great stuff! I only read one of the books after Flemming died and they just weren't the same.

IIRC, in one of the books he kept a 45Colt revolver (I got the impression that it was a New Service) in the glove box of the Bently. I don't remember which book it was. Guess a trip to the library is in order.

If you like a good read, try the Matt Helm books by Donald Hamilton. Mr Hamilton knows guns and knives, so you are not constantly jarred "out of the moment" by a gun boo-boo in the middle of an interesting passage. Do not, under any circumstances, see the Matt Helm movie Murderer's Row. Dean Martin plays Matt Helm. Matt Helm is of Norwegian descent, well over 6' tall, blue eyes and blond hair. Having him portrayed by a short Italian singer is just, well...wrong! As well as the fact that the only thing Hollywood's version and the book have in common is the title!
 
The real Major Boothroyd advised Fleming on the types of guns a real secret agent should be using. I believe he suggested the PPK and S&W airweight for concealed work and something larger for business (45 maybe?). He also made some holster suggestions. Unfortunately Fleming reportedly mucked up everything Boothroyd told him.
 
Yeah, Bond had a "Colt Army .45" revolver in the car in Fleming's novels. Gardner gave him a Ruger Redhawk .44 in his Saab (!).

Gardner was pretty good with guns, but every so often threw a gutter-ball. In "License Renewed" he armed Bond with a Browning Hi-power, but stated that it only carried 7 rounds. In "For Special Services" he gave Bond the oh-so-concealable VP70 complete with shoulder-stock/holster (have some fun imagining how to conceal that under a dinner jacket). And I'm not really sold on the ASP 9mm or its Guttersnipe sight.

Oh yeah, and the love affair with the 1911 was in "The World is Not Enough." But everyone in that movie used a 1911. The Spanish police, Russian mobsters, Elektra King's henchmen. The propmaster totally phoned it in on that one.
 
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