Boys I know she ain't pretty....

[Blackpowderwarrior]

But she still gets the job done.
2019 pietta
Kirst cylinder
40 grains BP
252 big lube bullet

She eats em all day.....

 

[hawg]

But she still gets the job done.
2019 pietta
Kirst cyminder
40 grains BP
252 big lube bullet

She eats em all day.....

It looks good to me. I'm not crazy about the short barrel but what I wanna know is what exactly a cyminder?

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

Edited for Hawg

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

I prefer a 8" barrel myself on a 1860 but once you get used to the 5.5" the 8" feels like a rifle!

 

[Navy Six 2]

I'm surprised you managed to get that much powder and that bullet into a Kirst cylinder considering the OAL limitation of the cylinder. Some factory 45 Colt ammo won't fit and I have to watch my reloads carefully as to length if it will be used in a Kirst/Colt conversion.

 

[Y-T71]

That's a great photo!

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

I'm surprised you managed to get that much powder and that bullet into a Kirst cylinder considering the OAL limitation of the cylinder. Some factory 45 Colt ammo won't fit and I have to watch my reloads carefully as to length if it will be used in a Kirst/Colt conversion.

I had this mold made at accurate molds and shortened the overall length of the nose of the bullet and tweaked the lube groove a bit.

40 grains of 3f fits with a considerable amount of compression.

I recently recut the forcing cone on this gun to 11 degrees and this shooting sesh was meant to see where I needed to fix the sights to get it to hit to point of aim.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

Just outta curiosity, do you feel like cutting the forcing cone made a difference in accuracy? I do cut them on occasion myself, especially on the big horse pistols that have a tiny chamfer instead a real forcing cone.

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

Just outta curiosity, do you feel like cutting the forcing cone made a difference in accuracy? I do cut them on occasion myself, especially on the big horse pistols that have a tiny chamfer instead a real forcing cone.

Before I cut the forcing cone I had her shooting to point of aim but she was leading badly around the forcing cone and accuracy was decreasing greatly after a few shots.
I recut the forcing cone to see if it would help with the leading problem and it helped considerably but I threw the point of impact back 6 inches high and 3 inches to the left.
I ground the v notch in the hammer down and to the right a bit and will see if shes Gotti g to point of aim today.

The forcing cone did help the groups greatly.
I had no flyers , where as before id usually have 1 or 2.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

If I recall you have a handful of ASM pistols, is this one and is the arbor corrected?

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

If I recall you have a handful of ASM pistols, is this one and is the arbor corrected?[/QUOTE

No this is a pietta.
I went through all my ASM's and worked em over. Fixed the arbor, crowned the muzzle, re blued a few of em.
Actually sold 2 of em I now have 3 left.
I have 2 stainless 1860s that I reworked only fixing the arbor and crowning the muzzle. Had to do a little thinning on the bolt arm also to get it up to par.

 

[Jackrabbit1957]

I have a Pietta 1860 Navy myself, it shoots slightly high and left with a ball. Tried it with a conical and it shoots to point of aim. I need to shoot it some more and it's looking very promising, minute of golf ball at 30 ish yards.

 

[Dave T]

40 grains of 3f fits with a considerable amount of compression.

Why the 40g of FFFg with a 250g bullet? That is quite an overload in modern solid head brass compared to the original 45 Colt loading. To duplicate the original performance (910 fps/255g from a 7-1/2" barrel) in modern brass, 35-36g of FFFg will deliver a little over 900 fps from that barrel length. I've shot that load for years and chronographed it a number of times to verify the performance.

Dave

 

[1KPerDay]

I have a Pietta 1860 Navy myself, it shoots slightly high and left with a ball. Tried it with a conical and it shoots to point of aim. I need to shoot it some more and it's looking very promising, minute of golf ball at 30 ish yards.

Wow!

 

[armoredman]

I think it looks just fine, like a working gun ought to look.

 

[misskitty2]

what powder are u using

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

Why the 40g of FFFg with a 250g bullet? That is quite an overload in modern solid head brass compared to the original 45 Colt loading. To duplicate the original performance (910 fps/255g from a 7-1/2" barrel) in modern brass, 35-36g of FFFg will deliver a little over 900 fps from that barrel length. I've shot that load for years and chronographed it a number of times to verify the performance.

Dave

Dave,
Im glad you like your load and it works for you.
I in the same respect also like mine
Does the extra 5 grains make a difference? Id say yes quite a bit due to compression and it seems more accurate.
Ive shot many a 35 grain load myself but ive settled on
40 grains of 3f old eyesnford

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

what powder are u using

Goex Old Eynsford

 

[45 Dragoon]

what exactly a cyminder?

It's a little animal that looks like a lizard but without scales !!

Mike

 

[45 Dragoon]

I recut the forcing cone to see if it would help with the leading problem and it helped considerably .

Try a few jacketed 250gr. They work great in my revolvers. ( congrats on the 40gr loads!! Sounds like my kinda shooting!)

Mike

 

[45 Dragoon]

I'm surprised you managed to get that much powder and that bullet into a Kirst cylinder considering the OAL limitation of the cylinder. Some factory 45 Colt ammo won't fit and I have to watch my reloads carefully as to length if it will be used in a Kirst/Colt conversion.

The cylinders are different lengths. The Pietta cylinders are the longer of the two and that's what I put in all mine. Factory length ammo fits pretty much except for the soft tips of the Hornady revolution loads.

Mike

 

[dickydalton]

I never could get 40 grains in.

 

[dickydalton]

By the way Mike, that 1860 is working fine!

 

[45 Dragoon]

By the way Mike, that 1860 is working fine!

That's awesome!! Thanks so much!!!

Mike

 

[Blackpowderwarrior]

Try a few jacketed 250gr. They work great in my revolvers. ( congrats on the 40gr loads!! Sounds like my kinda shooting!)

Mike

I have some plated Berrys projectiles but the jacket likes to peel off during bullet seating so theyve sat in the closet.