I am a confirmed brass rat, but a polite one. This whole thing sounds over the top, but in defense of MM, it is a public range and you just don't know the folks. I have had someone commit suicide in my favorite lane of a military only indoor range, I have been party to numerous acts of unsafe gun handling and poor behavior on more public ranges. I am usually very discreet and polite about it, but the chances of all my guns being empty at once is nil. At the isolated conservation or national forest ranges I am more ready, criminals have gone gun shopping at these before. That's why you may see me shooting a BP revo with an loaded AR-15 laying there next to me. Because you never know.
Brass Scroungers: Part Deux! Spoiled my Range Session.
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thats flawd logic. as the shells are the spent portion of "food" (ammunition) so if anything the brass "rat" is actualy collecting the defications of the shooter, hence making him a "dung beetle" and not a "rat"
i love how the reloaders are taking it personal.
if i tell some one not to cut up a mosin, you get hundreds of responses that its his rifle and he can do what he wants.
but if i say id rather throw away my brass than give it to someone i dont know or some one who annoys me, im all the sudden a greedy selfish POS.
well its his brass. and if this guy was annoying/ disrespectful , intentional or not, then thats motivation to deny him the brass.
raginrednek
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i go to shoot, and sometimes collect my brass, but don't reload yet. i don't want to be bothered.
Our range has a "Pick up your own brass" policy. It's looked at as trash to be politely cleaned up. I reload (.38, .357, .45 ACP and 9mm) so I always pick up and re-box all my brass. BUT, when the police, sheriffs, USCG or other Homeland Security types have used the range, I make sure to pick up all their .40 S&W brass because I'm sure, one day, I will reload that as well and I know its primo commercial "once fired" stuff in. They also leave a lot of shiny 9mm brass in the sand-it goes home with me.
I do not pick up any calibers that I don't need (30-30, .223 etc) as I figure that others may have a need for them. That said, if the range requires shooters to pick up their brass "trash" and many shooters just leave the stuff lying at the shooting benches and in the sand, what does that say about shooters as a whole? Are we slobs or just leaving recyclables for the next guy to use?
BTW, that guy with no sense of personal space wanting the shooter's brass? I'd ask him to come back after I leave. If he still didn't have a clue, out comes the .357 2 1/2" snubbie. People usually don't hang around long when that thing's in use-sometimes I think its bark is worse than its bite.
Ironvic
I do not pick up any calibers that I don't need (30-30, .223 etc) as I figure that others may have a need for them. That said, if the range requires shooters to pick up their brass "trash" and many shooters just leave the stuff lying at the shooting benches and in the sand, what does that say about shooters as a whole? Are we slobs or just leaving recyclables for the next guy to use?
BTW, that guy with no sense of personal space wanting the shooter's brass? I'd ask him to come back after I leave. If he still didn't have a clue, out comes the .357 2 1/2" snubbie. People usually don't hang around long when that thing's in use-sometimes I think its bark is worse than its bite.
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FLORIDA KEVIN
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I have to admit that if someone did this to me I would probably be a little ticked off ! but I think you can be prepared and alert to conditions without being overly aggresive ! the ranges I shoot at are usually well staffed and lots of police around , sometimes i wish i could just go out in the boonies and shoot and If I were alone at a remote gun range I would in fact be suspicous of strangers ! so perhaps I have judged too harshly ! sorry ! someone made a comment about the FBI shootout in Miami that hit a little close to home !I spend a lot of time out along side canals fishing out in the glades and western Broward and Dade counties ! You could disappear out there real easy !
evan price
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re: cutting up a mosin VS brass rats:
I agree, do whatever you want with YOUR stuff to suit you. If you want to put your brass in the trash, please do, wish more did. The thousands of steel-case garbage littering every outdoor range I frequent would be helped tremendously.
However, if you don't want it anyway, making it harder for someone else to take what you don't want out of spite seems petty.
Funny story: Once upon a time I was out visiting friends and saw a neighbor up the block hauling a lot of home bathroom remodelling garbage out to the curb, a bathtub, toilet, vanity, etc and two large plate glass mirrors, about 3' x 4' in nice shape, he set into the bathtub and went back for more junk.
I waited for the guy to come back and asked him if he was throwing all of that stuff out (to confirm it was trash and not sitting there waiting for a buddy to pick up or something). The guy said yeah.
I asked him if it was allright for me to take the mirrors. The guy said, "Give me $20 for them and they're yours."
I asked him why, he was throwing them out, I would just wait until later that night and get them then.
He picked up the toilet tank and threw it into the bathtub, smashing the mirrors and the porcelain tank into bits, which scattered all over his yard.
"They're free now," he said.
I laughed, and when he asked why, I said, "Because now you get to pick up all the broken glass in your yard."
I agree, do whatever you want with YOUR stuff to suit you. If you want to put your brass in the trash, please do, wish more did. The thousands of steel-case garbage littering every outdoor range I frequent would be helped tremendously.
However, if you don't want it anyway, making it harder for someone else to take what you don't want out of spite seems petty.
Funny story: Once upon a time I was out visiting friends and saw a neighbor up the block hauling a lot of home bathroom remodelling garbage out to the curb, a bathtub, toilet, vanity, etc and two large plate glass mirrors, about 3' x 4' in nice shape, he set into the bathtub and went back for more junk.
I waited for the guy to come back and asked him if he was throwing all of that stuff out (to confirm it was trash and not sitting there waiting for a buddy to pick up or something). The guy said yeah.
I asked him if it was allright for me to take the mirrors. The guy said, "Give me $20 for them and they're yours."
I asked him why, he was throwing them out, I would just wait until later that night and get them then.
He picked up the toilet tank and threw it into the bathtub, smashing the mirrors and the porcelain tank into bits, which scattered all over his yard.
"They're free now," he said.
I laughed, and when he asked why, I said, "Because now you get to pick up all the broken glass in your yard."
nerfsrule2
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My encounters with brass scroungers have not been positive; and I am being kind. There is the lady who comes right up to you and picks up brass @ your feet. It is still warm!!! Then there is a guy that will walk out in front of the pistol bench to pick up brass while you are firing. Time to call the Warden!!!
woodybrighton
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I hated picking up brass
I was bitterly disappointed when I visited my brother in Florida and had to pick the "brass" up after an sks shooting session
I was bitterly disappointed when I visited my brother in Florida and had to pick the "brass" up after an sks shooting session
I can see the OP's point. The behavior he describes is tantamount to eating in a restaurant and somebody staring at you. It's not illegal but it sure is rude.
But if it's a public range, what can you do? The OP suggests he contemplated shooting the person? Wow. If we're degenerating to that level of paranoia then we should all take up tennis.
On the other hand, some of the comments are criticizing the OP for basically being impolite, yet the comments themselves are impolite. What irony.
But if it's a public range, what can you do? The OP suggests he contemplated shooting the person? Wow. If we're degenerating to that level of paranoia then we should all take up tennis.
On the other hand, some of the comments are criticizing the OP for basically being impolite, yet the comments themselves are impolite. What irony.
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