Brass To Face, Glock and Others

[NacsMXer]

I was really hoping that the Apex extractor would fix the poor ejection on my July 2013 production Glock 19 Gen 4, but I shot it again today for the second time and it didn't change a thing. I have all the pertinent upgrades including the stronger Apex extractor spring, Glock non loaded chamber indicator bearing, 0-4-3 recoil spring assembly, and 30274 ejector.

I still get a weak vertical ejection pattern where the brass comes down and hits me on my right bicep/forearm (right handed), comes back and hits me 6:00 in the center of the chest, and hits me on the top of the head/shooting glasses. I get hit almost every shot.

At this point i'm thinking the dual recoil spring assembly is simply over-sprung, and not kicking the slide back hard enough to eject the cases with enough authority. I just ordered a Jager Gen 4 guide rod and 15 lb ISMI reduced rate recoil spring which I hope will offer some improvement.

 

[Jaywalker]

You're staying at it longer than I would. It sounds to me as if that's a piece Glock needs back. I've read a lot about them exchanging pistols when they can't be fixed. Of course, then you'd have to start over...

 

[Bovice]

I have a .40 P229 that has launched brass far and wide since day one, regardless of what ammo I use. I wouldn't get my panties in a wad if a few hit me so long as it's a good shooter.

 

[Foto Joe]

In 1980 I picked up an Ithaca 1911 of WWII vintage for a couple of hundred bucks. I didn't have any problem with where the brass went but my future ex-wife found out that wearing a low cut top that exposed her rather ample assets was a REALLY bad idea when shooting that gun. Unfortunately in my youth I didn't realize what that gun would be worth in 30 years and since I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn from inside the barn I got rid of it. I do have a S&W Model 39-2 that will drop the brass neatly into the back of my Rhino with about 90% accuracy though. I think if I left the cartridge box open in the back of the Rhino it might even put them back in the box once in a while. My current 1911's give me plenty of exercise and test my bifocals but then again it's just another reason to take the grandkids out shooting.

 

[rskent]

Has anyone bought a Glock 19 Gen 4 and regretted it?

I don't regret it at all. My G19 gen4 has been 100% so far. It even runs with my reloads.
Having said that, the gun does seem to be slightly over sprung. The empty’s just
fall out of the ejection port. But they do fall out every time, and its hard to argue with that.

 

[Shipwreck]

One of the reasons I got rid of my last Glock 17 - I got tired of this. I had it worked on: it went from probably 25-30 hits to my face down to 2-3. I should have left it there. I had the Glocksmith mess with it some more - went up to about 10 per 50 rounds. Gets annoying after a while...

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Glocks seem to be the worst offenders. I wonder if it has anything to do with the frame flexing?

 

[Shipwreck]

Strangely enough, mine put them all in a nice pile if I shot isosceles. If I shot Weaver or modified weaver (stance) - it was to my head. Weird...

 

[ying pow]

Glock has made some mods in the Gen 4 pistols. I live close and have driven over several times. No more issues. One thing they changed is the design of the recoil rod to control the ejection better. Just call them and they will take care of any issues. Out of state you have to mail it in.

 

[Nomad]

I have owned my fair share for Glocks in several calibers and more than a few 1911 in 45ACP and don't ever recall a problem with failure to feed or brass to the face. True the models of 30 or more years ago did have FTF unless tuned. Maybe a FTF every 2000 or so rounds in the 1911 but typically a reload related problem with plinking ammo. Personally I am confident enough in my 1911s to use them for everyday carry as well as in compitition. I would say any Glock will also feed well and deliver as far as ejection.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

With MOST guns, a change to the tip of the ejector (using a file to change the angle just a little) will cause the ejected cases to fly off in a different direction. You should NOT have to do MUCH to get different results...

Since the trigger assembly and ejector (a single unit) for the Glock costs about $8, if I were having problems with spent cases hitting me, I think I'd buy a trigger/ejector assembly, and work on the one in the gun to see if I could get different results. Then, if there's no improvement, you're out $8, but you can put the gun back to its original configuration -- and there's a chance that the new assembly will perform differently.

 

[SconnieGirl]

All by brass to face in my newer Gen3 glocks was due to the ejector. The 336 had to go. Replaced with 30274.