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What scope to use with a .22 brake barrel air rifle, Max Velocity 1300 fps, Muzzle Energy 26.6 ft/lbs. The new garmo swarm magnum comes with a 3x9x40. but the reviews show it isn't the best of quality but I will start with it until it goes bad. Just looking down the road. The Nikon 3x9 Prostaff Target EFR would be my first one to choose but, its around 200 bucks a little out of my range. Any ideas?
 
There's a bunch of scopes that are springer rated that should work for your rifle. I use Hawke scopes for springer rifles. The Nikon may be ok but only if it is specifically rated for spring piston air rifles. It may be intended for rimfire rifles, which is not the same.

Make sure that you buy with a warranty, or even better a 30 day no questions asked return period. Just make sure you get to fire a few hundred shots within the return time period.
 
On of the popular cheaper ones are the UTG/Leapers bugbusters.
Ive never used the new ones, i had an old one on my brutal chinese magnum springer and it survived to be given away after a number of years of use.
 
I ordered an Optima 3×9×40 AO Hatsan scope for my Magnum Springer. Didn't expect much but after putting several thousand pellets down range it's still holding true. At a very reasonable price and with a full warranty I would not hesitate to buy another.
 
I have been happy with a Hawke 2x7x32 AO on a Hatsan 87 22 cal that has worked well for me.
 
This is an interesting thread.... Like the OP I picked up a 22 cal. Break Barrel over two and a half years ago. It came from the factory with a Center Point 3-9x 32mm scope that isn't exactly top of the line but I figured on replacing it eventually. But it's still working great and now I feel that they are a better scope than I had initially thought. Have no plans to replace it unless it goes bad and if it does I can always look at threads like this to get feedback on air rifle scopes. Perhaps those Center Points might even be a viable option for the OP? It's the only air gun scope I've had any experience with but at least it's been a good experience so far.
 
Leupold and Vortex scopes are GTG with springers. The trick is finding a model with parallax down to 10yards that fits your needs..
 
One thing to keep in mind is that spring piston air rifles come in different power levels. Most "magnum" springers produce around 20 fpe. These guns are hard on scopes, and only those rated for springers should be used.

Spring piston rifles that produce 30 fpe, however, are more of a problem. Destroyed scopes are a fact of life with these rifles, and Dampa Mounts are highly recommended. Think hard before you mount an expensive scope on one of these guns, and consider shooting the rifle with open sights only.
 
I love my Nikon Prostaff, had it on my FWB 124D for decades. The only real problems are it's kinda spendy to put on a gun that might break it. I did back them b/c there wasn't much choice. The other is it has no parallax adj and is set to 100yrds, but you can set it to a point that is more for the range you use if you want. Prolly find how online, but I can explain is needed. Parallax is an issue b/c the closer the range the worse it gets, and it's gets worse with magnification so at say 20yrds and 12x you'd be screwed in both parallax and focus.
The UTG/Leapers are great for the $ and strong. The "TS" version is their strong version so even stronger, and it seems the TS are holding up well if you read the reviews. The below all have side parallax/focus, and side adj is so much nicer that OA adj b/c with an airgun you need to adj more often due to the close range.
SCP3-U312AOIEW; kinda long and reticle is fat like the one you have now, maybe even fatter. Plus it has nine big fat mil-dots per leg which I find even very annoying: https://tinyurl.com/ybzcotab
SCP3-UM312AOIEW; same scope but shorter so it looks more normal on a gun imo: https://tinyurl.com/yb7jj6ot
SCP3-UGM312AOIEW; same as the above short version but better reticle and my new fav cheap scope. Well, not all that cheap at $150 but considering what you get it's cheap: https://tinyurl.com/y873avmz The reason it's my fave is the reticle is etched glass and the etch is ~one fourth to maybe one fifth as wide as the above, plus five of the dots are thin hashes as you can see. I have all three of these and basically this one ruined the others for me, similar to how side parallax ruined all my AO scopes. The pix focus was too hard to get so they're actually fatter in real life, at least the wire one is.
Lastly, if you tune the gun properly it'll reduce the reverse recoil which is what breaks scopes. I tune all mine and I've never broken a scope...
 

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IMG_0921 (2).JPG After researching I bought a UTG BugBuster 3-9X-32 one inch mil dot w/green & red reticle for my 1377 multi pump. It's still holding zero after several months and still hitting pill bottles at 75 ft. I read reviews from guys using it on AK's and were very happy with it. One of it's features is the Parallax Adjustable Objective from 3 ft to infinity. I bought at rollback price at Walmart on line for $75. It's heavy but great on my 1377.
 
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It's a late comment...but I think worth mentioning that with a very powerful springer you want to use heavy pellets and forget about the 'advertised' velocities that were done with the very lightest ones. Marketing demands that 'faster is better', but with airguns using diabolo pellets they normally don't shoot well beyond 900 fps or slightly less. If the gun is able to shoot faster....go heavier with the pellets until it's running about 875 or so and it'll be as accurate and hard hitting as possible.

Matching a heavy pellet with a powerful springer is also much, much easier on the scope. With a properly matched pellet the piston gives up nearly all of its' energy getting the pellet to move and this cushions the impact at the end of travel. Using a lightweight pellet is pretty much the same as dry firing it....the piston SLAMS the end of the cylinder with little retardation and it's this forward jerk that really puts the hurt on a scope. Also using too heavy a pellet can cause the piston to bounce back which also makes for a weird feeling shot cycle. When everything is working together the springers will shoot very nicely.:)

I found out all of this stuff with my first Diana 48 in .177 which is WAY too big a powerplant for that small caliber. Even with the heaviest available pellets they were screaming along and the shot cycle very harsh. Put a Maccarri spring in it that now runs Crosman Heavies at 900 and the gun shoots sweet and accurately.
 
View attachment 793893 After researching I bought a UTG BugBuster 3-9X-32 one inch mil dot w/green & red reticle for my 1377 multi pump. It's still holding zero after several months and still hitting pill bottles at 75 ft. I read reviews from guys using it on AK's and were very happy with it. One of it's features is the Parallax Adjustable Objective from 3 ft to infinity. I bought at rollback price at Walmart on line for $75. It's heavy but great on my 1377.

I've been looking at UTG BugBuster too. Any other insights about it before I decide to buy one of that?
 
It's a late comment...but I think worth mentioning that with a very powerful springer you want to use heavy pellets and forget about the 'advertised' velocities that were done with the very lightest ones. Marketing demands that 'faster is better', but with airguns using diabolo pellets they normally don't shoot well beyond 900 fps or slightly less. If the gun is able to shoot faster....go heavier with the pellets until it's running about 875 or so and it'll be as accurate and hard hitting as possible.

Matching a heavy pellet with a powerful springer is also much, much easier on the scope. With a properly matched pellet the piston gives up nearly all of its' energy getting the pellet to move and this cushions the impact at the end of travel. Using a lightweight pellet is pretty much the same as dry firing it....the piston SLAMS the end of the cylinder with little retardation and it's this forward jerk that really puts the hurt on a scope. Also using too heavy a pellet can cause the piston to bounce back which also makes for a weird feeling shot cycle. When everything is working together the springers will shoot very nicely.:)

I found out all of this stuff with my first Diana 48 in .177 which is WAY too big a powerplant for that small caliber. Even with the heaviest available pellets they were screaming along and the shot cycle very harsh. Put a Maccarri spring in it that now runs Crosman Heavies at 900 and the gun shoots sweet and accurately.
Smart move on the JM spring. Back when Maccari was doing tunes, I always asked that he tune for accuracy rather than velocity; he seemed to agree that doing so was a wise choice. Once pellets go supersonic, they go their own way.
 
On of the popular cheaper ones are the UTG/Leapers bugbusters.
Ive never used the new ones, i had an old one on my brutal chinese magnum springer and it survived to be given away after a number of years of use.
I have old (20 or so years) Bushnell Trophies on my Crow Mag/Eliminators. Both rifles make 25+ ft.lbs; neither scope has ever lost its zero.
 
What scope to use with a .22 brake barrel air rifle, Max Velocity 1300 fps, Muzzle Energy 26.6 ft/lbs. The new garmo swarm magnum comes with a 3x9x40. but the reviews show it isn't the best of quality but I will start with it until it goes bad. Just looking down the road. The Nikon 3x9 Prostaff Target EFR would be my first one to choose but, its around 200 bucks a little out of my range. Any ideas?
I believe most Burris, Swift, Sightron, Leapers, Leupy and Bushnell scopes are airgun rated (or at least they used to be). Best check with the manufacturers.
 
A late post, but I just found this forum...

Have to agree with BilliamB. on the Bushnell Trophy scopes 4x12-40mm Model 73-4124 with an Adjustable Objective down to 10 yards... I have three of them... two that I have had for many years, and another that I bought used off eBay, because I don't think Bushnell makes the same Trophy scope these days.

The first one, I put on my FWB-124D .122... the 2nd one I put on my R1-TK .22 that has a Maccari (Air Rifle Headquarters) full power kit... the 3rd one I mounted on an old model HW77K .20 that I have had for many years, which I had a nice scope on, but it got moved to another air rifle.

Not sure about the current Bushnell Trophy scopes, but the older one has always been a favorite of mine.

I recently bought a new Bushnell AR/223 Drop Zone 3-12x with an AO (side adjustable) that also goes down to 10 yard... I put this on a FWB-300SU that I have had for many years, and decided that I wanted a decent scope on it... bought the scope from Amazon, and at the time Bushnell offered a $40 rebate, so it only ended up costing about $120... I have not shot a lot yet, but so far so good !
 
A late post, but I just found this forum...

Have to agree with BilliamB. on the Bushnell Trophy scopes 4x12-40mm Model 73-4124 with an Adjustable Objective down to 10 yards... I have three of them... two that I have had for many years, and another that I bought used off eBay, because I don't think Bushnell makes the same Trophy scope these days.

The first one, I put on my FWB-124D .122... the 2nd one I put on my R1-TK .22 that has a Maccari (Air Rifle Headquarters) full power kit... the 3rd one I mounted on an old model HW77K .20 that I have had for many years, which I had a nice scope on, but it got moved to another air rifle.

Not sure about the current Bushnell Trophy scopes, but the older one has always been a favorite of mine.

I recently bought a new Bushnell AR/223 Drop Zone 3-12x with an AO (side adjustable) that also goes down to 10 yard... I put this on a FWB-300SU that I have had for many years, and decided that I wanted a decent scope on it... bought the scope from Amazon, and at the time Bushnell offered a $40 rebate, so it only ended up costing about $120... I have not shot a lot yet, but so far so good !
Sounds as if you've got some great guns in your armory.

FWIW, I was just looking over my Trophy scopes; they were all made in Japan, which really dates them (and me!).
 
Sounds as if you've got some great guns in your armory.

FWIW, I was just looking over my Trophy scopes; they were all made in Japan, which really dates them (and me!).

Yeah, mine are all made in Japan too !

I've been airgunning since 1989 when I bought my first airgun... a spring piston Beeman FX-2 from a local gunshop that was Beeman dealer... fell in love with airguns, while buying firearms... even though I have plenty of room at home to shoot outdoors with firearms, I spend more time shooting my airguns... quite often in my basement, all year round... free of bad weather, darkness, and bugs !

Been hooked ever since !

I actually bought my first BB gun last month... a Daisy Red Ryder, at Walmart, just to plink with while barbecuing... hang an empty beverage can up by a wire and shoot at until I shred it in half... love being able to load up hundreds of BB's, cock the lever, and shoot.

My brother just turned me onto Chief AJ and his adult size wood stock and steel hoop lever for the Red Ryder... going to try some of "instinctive point and shoot" with this setup... but I have to do that outside !

Finishing the wood stock right now... I figure if I wear the Red Ryder out, I can save it for parts, and transplant the stock and lever to another new one !
 
Yeah, mine are all made in Japan too !

I've been airgunning since 1989 when I bought my first airgun... a spring piston Beeman FX-2 from a local gunshop that was Beeman dealer... fell in love with airguns, while buying firearms... even though I have plenty of room at home to shoot outdoors with firearms, I spend more time shooting my airguns... quite often in my basement, all year round... free of bad weather, darkness, and bugs !

Been hooked ever since !

I actually bought my first BB gun last month... a Daisy Red Ryder, at Walmart, just to plink with while barbecuing... hang an empty beverage can up by a wire and shoot at until I shred it in half... love being able to load up hundreds of BB's, cock the lever, and shoot.

My brother just turned me onto Chief AJ and his adult size wood stock and steel hoop lever for the Red Ryder... going to try some of "instinctive point and shoot" with this setup... but I have to do that outside !

Finishing the wood stock right now... I figure if I wear the Red Ryder out, I can save it for parts, and transplant the stock and lever to another new one !
Good to meet another shooter of classic airguns.

Been airgunning since the '90s myself. Your Feinwerkbaus are venerable prizes that only get better with age.

Recently, I've taken to shooting my HW77. It is a .177 that was tuned by Paul Watts, wears a Tyrolean stock, and groups better than 2" at 50 yards--even when I have the caffeine yips. It carries Beeman's Marksman brand (Mod. 61) and is so old, it's marked, "Made in W. Germany."
 
Good to meet another shooter of classic airguns.

Been airgunning since the '90s myself. Your Feinwerkbaus are venerable prizes that only get better with age.

Recently, I've taken to shooting my HW77. It is a .177 that was tuned by Paul Watts, wears a Tyrolean stock, and groups better than 2" at 50 yards--even when I have the caffeine yips. It carries Beeman's Marksman brand (Mod. 61) and is so old, it's marked, "Made in W. Germany."

I have wondered when the Made In "W Germany" became just Made In "Germany"... according to the Weihrauch website, my serial number gives me a date of being manufactured between 1985-1991... and Google tells me that the unification of East and West Germany was October 3, 1990.

My HW77-K does say made in "W Germany" too.

It really is an awesomely accurate air rifle... I have often wished it was a .177, only because of the availability of more pellets to choose from.

I use to just shoot the .20 Beeman Silver Bears, but my supply of those was getting low, and cannot seem to find them anymore... I use to get all my pellets from a local airgun shop, but sadly, the owner got too old, and closed the shop... now I have to buy online.

I just tried a tin of Field Target Trophy pellets (11.42 gr) and they shoot great, so I ordered some more online.

I bought the HW77-K used from an estate sale many years ago, so I think I got a piece of airgun history when Doc Beeman was promoting the .20 caliber HW77 carbine... glad that I have it !

I think I like all my airguns in some way or another !
 
I have wondered when the Made In "W Germany" became just Made In "Germany"... according to the Weihrauch website, my serial number gives me a date of being manufactured between 1985-1991... and Google tells me that the unification of East and West Germany was October 3, 1990.

My HW77-K does say made in "W Germany" too.

It really is an awesomely accurate air rifle... I have often wished it was a .177, only because of the availability of more pellets to choose from.

I use to just shoot the .20 Beeman Silver Bears, but my supply of those was getting low, and cannot seem to find them anymore... I use to get all my pellets from a local airgun shop, but sadly, the owner got too old, and closed the shop... now I have to buy online.

I just tried a tin of Field Target Trophy pellets (11.42 gr) and they shoot great, so I ordered some more online.

I bought the HW77-K used from an estate sale many years ago, so I think I got a piece of airgun history when Doc Beeman was promoting the .20 caliber HW77 carbine... glad that I have it !

I think I like all my airguns in some way or another !

So do I. Every time I dust one off that I've not shot for a while, I fall in love all over again.

Back in the '90s, Beeman was actively promoting .20 caliber as offering .22 mass with better balistics; .25s were few and far between. I even had a .25 Crow Mag rebarreled in .20, as the selection of .25 pellets was so thin. Now the situation appears reversed. Everybody's stamping out .25s and .20s have been termed obsolete. I'm sure the pendulum will swing back as shooters "discover" .20s again.

I used to buy brown boxes of .20 Crosman Premiers, but they're no longer being manufactured. I shot the last of my stock earlier in the year. Now I'm using up an old tin of H&N Field Target Specials; they're okay in the Crow Mag and the Whiscombe, though they are a little slim at the skirt. Best current manufacture .20s I found so far are H&N Barracudas. They load and group better than the FTSs. All of them--Premiers, FTS and 'Cudas--are dome head field target types and weigh in at about 13.8 grains.

FWIW, Tim McMurray at Mac1 Airguns seems to offer the largest in-stock selection of pellets that I've found. He also writes informative descriptions of their uses beyond the usual factory cliches of "accurate" and "hard-hitting." I'll likely order a few tins of JSBs in .20 from him to try, and let you know how I like them. They seem to be the pellet de jour.

I see you've a FWB 300. I've always liked those and 65 pistols, as they were exquisitely made and performed magnificently. Back in the day, I had Chinese copies of both; they were not bad at all, though the steel was a bit dodgy. The Chinese 300 knockoff was a sight to see: it came in a hard leatherette case lined with whorehouse purple velvet plush. I'm still amazed that I was able to find people to buy the things. (Hell, I'm amazed I bought the damn things in the first place.)

See you around the forum. Good shooting!
 
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