BUDK Knives and Swords

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Lot'sa folks buy that stuff!

It's called capitalism!

And for knives you don't care if you lose or not, why not? I carry a cheap E-Bay knife, what is a knife made to do, cut if I'm not mistaken, guess what, it cuts! So my $2.00 Chinese knife accomplishes what it was made for, and when I lose it, or Heaven forbid it breaks, who cares, I sure don't.

BTW, I'm 72, and yet to break or bend a blade. Maybe I just know how to use them.
 
It may cut, and it may also fold on you when your fingers are in the way. I have had that happen with a cheap knife so give me some quality American knives please. I have more Case and Benchmade than anything, with a Strider and a couple of Emersons.
 
And for knives you don't care if you lose or not, why not? I carry a cheap E-Bay knife, what is a knife made to do, cut if I'm not mistaken, guess what, it cuts! So my $2.00 Chinese knife accomplishes what it was made for, and when I lose it, or Heaven forbid it breaks, who cares

And a Hi-Point goes "bang" . Though they aren't highly recommended for daily carry.And carry knives,generally, get much,much,more daily use than a carry firearm.

I happen to prefer quality knives that will last my great grandchildren's (when I have some) lifetimes.

My small selection of nine folders are Emerson,Benchmade,and Spyderco. A knife that costs $100-$200 is what? Equal to a half dozen boxes of ammo? And lasts for decades of use.

Worth it in my opinion.
 
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Having a blade fold on you with your fingers in the way is nothing short of using the tool in the wrong way. IMO, if one has trouble with a folding knife closing on their hand, then carry a fixed blade.

At 72, buying anything on the sole purpose of needing it to last decades is just foolish, or dreaming, not sure which.
 
I think you missed the part about "hunting knives", maybe ?

As far as the Nazi Replicas, some of the originals sell for hundreds and even thousands of $. I can't afford the high dollar stuff. I, and others, have a natural curiosity of many subjects and themes. This extends to (but not limited to) guns, knives, and numerous items and ideas.
Other people do not always share the same explorative desires and capabilities. This is not to criticize a persons choices. To each his/her own.
On THR, we should all feel free to express our ideas, wants, needs, and interests.:)
 
In my teens I bought a Nazi youth knife, it was a repro, made in Germany.

BTW, I never became a skin head or had any notion of being a Nazi sympathizer, and served 8 years in the Military, with an Honorable discharge.

But I did think the knife was "cool".

Still have it in my collection.
 
Having a blade fold on you with your fingers in the way is nothing short of using the tool in the wrong way. IMO, if one has trouble with a folding knife closing on their hand, then carry a fixed blade.

Having a folder that will close when it's not supposed to is having the wrong tool. But hey if you want to live with $2 folders go right ahead. BudK stays in business somehow, mostly because a lot of people think their junk is good enough. It's not to me, but you go ahead.
 
The smaller versions of these cheapies may make nice little toys or even crude beater knifes if used with caution but I would not mess with the bigger blades, don't even try to use them for purposes bigger blades are meant for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kFgeZtkAb8

Don't endanger your preciouse life and limbs. There are good performing small cheapies like Sebenza and Benchmade Axis knockoffs made by Sanremnu good but not nearly as good as the real ones.

For big knives you want to chop with I strongly suggest you spend the many extra bucks for proven top quality properly treated steel made by a reputable source and of a design well known to work.

Also know that making a big blade in stainless that will hold up to impact (chopping) and keep a good edge is much more difficult to do than with a simple carbon steel and therefore more costly.

The point is a cheaply priced stainless large chopper or large blade for that matter is an ominous sign of an accident waiting to happen.
 
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I should no more be referred to as a sucker for using inexpensive knives than I should not refer to others who spend $20/$50 dollars as being foolish.

I have done quit well for the 60 years of my knife owning, and I fail to see myself as being a sucker.
 
Knives to me are tools. I use them to cut, scrape, pry, remove slotted screws and sometimes worse. I look at some of the custom made knives that professional knife makers create. Some are weird and some are beautiful, and many have several thousand dollar price tags. To me, that's just man jewelry. You can just look at it, but it was never meant to pry open a paint can with...
 
And where is your reference material ?

That's not even a clear question. Are you asking
>If Budk is honest;
>If Budk is dishonest;
>If the people who buy Budk are suckers;
>Other.

Since 30 seconds of viewing Budk's catalog makes it obvious that they mostly sell cheap, shoddy knives, (Kissing Crane knives are about the highest "quality" knives I saw, and they are now known for making Case knockoffs with soft steel) I'm not certain even you know what you mean to be asking.
 
Just an observation messing around with knives over 45 years - I've never seen high end knives sold where stuff like BudK is featured, and vice versa.

The inexpensive import knives characterized in that catalog are primarily retailed in the secondary market - not brick and mortar stores. Flea markets, gun shows, etc. Overall they are value engineering to the extreme - if it could be made cheaper, just look on the next table and you will likely find it. They tend to use a lot of hype, glitz, or whatever to show off their "workmanship," it's done with extremist styling and very little substance.

Every now and then you find something that is regionally known, like an OKAPI ring lock folder. It's not high tech but it is what is locally sold as a daily user. You could say as much about Opinel - another inexpensive knife that pops up in the low end catalogs. Decent steel in a low cost package.

Not everyone who buys them is a sucker - given some discernment you can find little gems like a Mtech Keramit with G10 scales in some 440 steel - for $10. The issue is do you need an expensive high end steel that will cost 10 knives of that "ilk" to try out the elements of the design? Is it a cheap copy, yes, but that's the point, it copies the shape and style of a knife that might be interesting - without smacking the budget for far more money.

We don't all have the same discretionary spending. I polished the blade on that kerambit and still have it, junk that it might be, simply because it does what the design intended - fast opening with the wave feature, an aggressive hooked blade, with handle that offers some retention. It's not meant for cutting up an night shift's work of unboxing antifreeze. I tried it and it's not all that.

On the other hand I just received an Mtech Perrin variant, a neck knife with front finger hole, wharnecliffe blade. If I have a complaint about that it's the Kydex is a bit loose, something the average hair dryer and Sharpy pen cap can fix. It's a defensive neck knife for concealed carry, under the legal limit, has excellent retention, doesn't need extreme steel, and for the most part is worn 99% of the time. It's worth the $10.50 I paid free shipping - vs a Spyderco Swink that typically bids $65 on ebay. I could buy six of the Mtechs.

I suppose that makes me a sucker but like it's said, better to have one than need one and not have it. "Oh, it will fall apart and kill you." No, test it out - even a CCW needs 500 rounds thru it to break it in, right? You can't trust anything out of the box. I test them out, and a lot of guys like me do it too. It's not all about what knife you want to show off, it's about selecting an edge that gets the job done exactly as needed. I use a lot of cheap knives scraping caulk out of exterior wood work - they get run over hidden nails, or you slip and smack masonry. I'm not doing that to a Rift or SnG, those are my "barbecue" knives.

BudK and the like are more often cheap junk, but with some discretion you still get your money's worth. You have to know things, and ignore the hype, but there are some sound buys there.
 
Knives to me are tools. I use them to cut, scrape, pry, remove slotted screws and sometimes worse. I look at some of the custom made knives that professional knife makers create. Some are weird and some are beautiful, and many have several thousand dollar price tags. To me, that's just man jewelry. You can just look at it, but it was never meant to pry open a paint can with...
Quality knives can be had for very low prices if you know what type of materials to look for and what you want to do with them.

A lot of knives made in Tiawan using CNC machines and cheaper labor (I don't like cheaper labor it's questionable to me) can be top quality rivaling their counterparts at 2 to 3 times less money or even much more than 2 to 3 times less, on top of that they can even be better. They are a thorn in the American knife industry as they can be had for as cheap as $10 all the way up to the same prices as knives made by well known companies and are for the most part worth every penny and often are more in terms of value for your money.

Quality knives from reputable knife companies do not run at $2000 but somewhere in the area between $25.00 and $200 in general terms of course they can be more or less (usually more.)

A $2000 custom knife that is top of the line in both quality and looks is not a typical example of a custom work knife you can get anywhere between $75.00 and $500.

A custom work knife if made right is usually one great sharp cutter designed for a narrow range of tasks typical examples are skinning, filleting, camping, carving etc... and are usually much better than what is made in a factory. People who use them a lot buy them they are not made to be flashy toys.

I would say most custom knives aside from the popular eye candy which are great too but expensive are practicle designs that are very useful to people who actually work a lot with knives.

They are often designs which big knife manufacturing companies are not willing to risk mass producing because big companies are first and formost about profit and if there is more money to be made selling flashy junk jewelry to mall ninjas than there is in selling practical plain or weird looking quality knives to people who really use them then they will concentrate their marketing stategy to accomodate mall ninjas.

We all know though that more than many times a custom design becomes so popular that companies pick them up or in worse case make copy cat knock offs.
 
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"Cheaper labor" does not equate to mistreated workers when the cost of living is much lower. I've looked into teaching in Taiwan, and while the income isn't high, the COL is low enough that most teachers can pay off student loans while working there. :)
 
Well you might be right I just don't know. Information is often sketchy at best on the subject.

These workers often live in complexes around the factorys they work in that are owned by the company.

One their strong points is if you give them the money they will manufacture whatever you want at whatever quality you want.

I would not blame Tiawan for the cheakskate American businessmen that go there and insist they make knock offs using the cheapest crap at the cheapest price and turn them over for profit here in the US.

On the other hand there have been instances where American companies have refused to tool up to manufacture new inovative knife designs no matter how much money they are offered forcing the designers to go to Tiawan where they find that they hit jackpot in terms of value.

Who's fault is that ?

Labor fairness in the east however is somthing I don't know about and suspect that it depends on which factory, farm, plantation, etc... the labor is taking place in ??????
 
I do know that Spyderco's Taichung knives are arguably their best designs for fit and finish. :)
 
I couldn't resist, so I ordered some WWII Nazi reproduction dress knives.

So when I wake up in the morning, my first thought is where can I get a good Nazi knife repo? No man I don't, you ordered this why? For what purpose? Especially from BudK, you got what you paid for.
 
Especially from BudK, you got what you paid for.

That probably puts it how I was thinking of BudK's stuff. You get what you pay for.

Users would be much better off buying a Mora, which is a lot of knife for not much money.
 
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