BYU Prof says 9-11 was BushCo. plot!!!!!!!!!!!

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Muslim hijackers did not bring down the WTC....got it?

Bush Lied! People Died!!!!

It's all about oil and Israel (da joooooooze!) and Dubya's inadequacies!

It's all a LIE, I tell you, a LIE!!!

Islamic fascists do NOT want to subject the entire world to sharia.

Jihadists so NOT want to cut your head off just because you don't believe there is no God but Allah and that Mohammed is his prophet.......

Got it???????????

:rolleyes:

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1,1249,635160132,00.html

Professor thinks bombs, not planes, toppled WTC

By Elaine Jarvik
Deseret Morning News
The physics of 9/11 — including how fast and symmetrically one of the World Trade Center buildings fell — prove that official explanations of the collapses are wrong, says a Brigham Young University physics professor.
In fact, it's likely that there were "pre-positioned explosives" in all three buildings at ground zero, says Steven E. Jones.
In a paper posted online Tuesday and accepted for peer-reviewed publication next year, Jones adds his voice to those of previous skeptics, including the authors of the Web site www.wtc7.net, whose research Jones quotes. Jones' article can be found at www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html.
Stuart Johnson, Deseret Morning News"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three (WTC) buildings," BYU physics professor Steven E. Jones says. Jones, who conducts research in fusion and solar energy at BYU, is calling for an independent, international scientific investigation "guided not by politicized notions and constraints but rather by observations and calculations.
"It is quite plausible that explosives were pre-planted in all three buildings and set off after the two plane crashes — which were actually a diversion tactic," he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," Jones writes.
As for speculation about who might have planted the explosives, Jones said, "I don't usually go there. There's no point in doing that until we do the scientific investigation."
Previous investigations, including those of FEMA, the 9/11 Commission and NIST (the National Institutes of Standards and Technology), ignore the physics and chemistry of what happened on Sept. 11, 2001, to the Twin Towers and the 47-story building known as WTC 7, he says. The official explanation — that fires caused structural damage that caused the buildings to collapse — can't be backed up by either testing or history, he says.
Jones acknowledges that there have been "junk science" conspiracy theories about what happened on 9/11, but "the explosive demolition hypothesis better satisfies tests of repeatability and parsimony and therefore is not 'junk science.' "
In a 9,000-word article that Jones says will be published in the book "The Hidden History of 9/11," by Elsevier, Jones offers these arguments:
• The three buildings collapsed nearly symmetrically, falling down into their footprints, a phenomenon associated with "controlled demolition" — and even then it's very difficult, he says. "Why would terrorists undertake straight-down collapses of WTC-7 and the Towers when 'toppling over' falls would require much less work and would do much more damage in downtown Manhattan?" Jones asks. "And where would they obtain the necessary skills and access to the buildings for a symmetrical implosion anyway? The 'symmetry data' emphasized here, along with other data, provide strong evidence for an 'inside' job."

• No steel-frame building, before or after the WTC buildings, has ever collapsed due to fire. But explosives can effectively sever steel columns, he says.

• WTC 7, which was not hit by hijacked planes, collapsed in 6.6 seconds, just .6 of a second longer than it would take an object dropped from the roof to hit the ground. "Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum, one of the foundational laws of physics?" he asks. "That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors — and intact steel support columns — the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings?" The paradox, he says, "is easily resolved by the explosive demolition hypothesis, whereby explosives quickly removed lower-floor material, including steel support columns, and allow near free-fall-speed collapses." These observations were not analyzed by FEMA, NIST nor the 9/11 Commission, he says.

• With non-explosive-caused collapse there would typically be a piling up of shattering concrete. But most of the material in the towers was converted to flour-like powder while the buildings were falling, he says. "How can we understand this strange behavior, without explosives? Remarkable, amazing — and demanding scrutiny since the U.S. government-funded reports failed to analyze this phenomenon."

• Horizontal puffs of smoke, known as squibs, were observed proceeding up the side the building, a phenomenon common when pre-positioned explosives are used to demolish buildings, he says.

• Steel supports were "partly evaporated," but it would require temperatures near 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit to evaporate steel — and neither office materials nor diesel fuel can generate temperatures that hot. Fires caused by jet fuel from the hijacked planes lasted at most a few minutes, and office material fires would burn out within about 20 minutes in any given location, he says.

• Molten metal found in the debris of the World Trade Center may have been the result of a high-temperature reaction of a commonly used explosive such as thermite, he says. Buildings not felled by explosives "have insufficient directed energy to result in melting of large quantities of metal," Jones says.

• Multiple loud explosions in rapid sequence were reported by numerous observers in and near the towers, and these explosions occurred far below the region where the planes struck, he says.

Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding."
Following several months of study, he presented his findings at a talk at BYU in September.
Jones says he would like the government to release 6,899 photographs and 6,977 segments of video footage for "independent scrutiny." He would also like to analyze a small sample of the molten metal found at Ground Zero.



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And, just in case anyone at all missed it, since it does come near the end of the story, and you might just be tempted to reply before reading the entire story..........

Here's where Mr. Science Moron finds his inspiration for his ground-breaking scientific work...........

Again, quoted directly from the article....


Jones says he became interested in the physics of the WTC collapse after attending a talk last spring given by a woman who had had a near-death experience. The woman mentioned in passing that "if you think the World Trade Center buildings came down just due to fire, you have a lot of surprises ahead of you," Jones remembers, at which point "everyone around me started applauding."
 
I don't even know how to respond. Umm, did the near-death "vision" say anything about FDR and his knowing about Pearl Harbor? I mean, now that we have a source... :uhoh:
 
Must have picked it up over at DU

The whole (LIHOP) Let It Happen On Purpose and (MIHOP) Made It Happen On Purpose thing has been a regular topic over at DU for years.

They really believe 9/11 was all part of a "Bush crime family" plot to save the Bush presidency, declare martial law and suspend all future elections to stay in power.

Don't look at me that way, they actually believe that over there.

They have conspiracy theories that would make Oliver Stone laugh out loud.
 
Henry Bowman said:
I hope the "peers" reviewing it are not just similar morons.

Sadly, they may be his true peers.

Still, it is entirely possible that there were pre-planted explosives. Why not?

The 9/11 planning and execution took place over many years.

If there were pre-planted explosives, that does not answer the question of who planted them. His conclusion that "Muslims were not to blame" makes little sense. He presents no evidence on which to base that conclusion.

In fact, this hypothesis would bring forth bigger questions, for example:

Why, exactly, would the hijackers kill themselves (and passengers) as a "diversion"?

If, say, Israel or America's own leaders were responsible, it would certainly be in the best interest of Al Qaeda to get this information out there at all costs! This information, and facts to back up the assertion, would do more to destabilize America than any terrorist attack ever could. It would be very easy to get those facts out there, if they existed. So why Bin Laden's reaction to 9/11 (chuckling)? Would he not seize the opportunity to strike a REAL blow at America's power if it were not an Al Qaeda plot?

Again, the physics may tell us that there were explosives. This could have been covered up for a number of reasons (see Able Danger for ideas if you want to speculate wildly). But that does not lead to a conclusion that the Islamofascists didn't do it.
 
Why, exactly, would the hijackers kill themselves (and passengers) as a "diversion"?
The planes were empty and flown by remote control. The passengers for those flights were taken away and killed elsewhere. :uhoh: I don't know how to explain the human remains found in the PA and Pentagon rubble, though.
 
Tenure or not, I don't see his career lasting too long at BYU. It is one of the most conservative schools in the nation.

Mormons are generally very, very supportive of our troops, and of the liberation of oppressed peoples (have a look at their history and you'll understand why).
 
Henry Bowman said:
The planes were empty and flown by remote control. The passengers for those flights were taken away and killed elsewhere. :uhoh: I don't know how to explain the human remains found in the PA and Pentagon rubble, though.

LOL -- well, not really laughing, considering the subject matter:(

This explanation would, of course, defy Occam's razor. I tried to adopt a dog that belonged to someone killed on one of the planes. (Unfortunately, he didn't get along with our current dog, also a rescue.)

But some pre-planted explosives would not be implausible. The fact by itself, though, would imply nothing except that Al Qaeda actually did a more thorough job than we first realized. This would hardly be earth-shattering.
 
Mormons also apparently believe that there's a Mormon planet out there. Seriously.

So this..um...well, I shouldn't need to say anything else about that, should I?
BYU has a lot of nutters.
 
Good point, ArmedBear. Who would plant them and why? A fair question.
Biker
 
One thing that these people always fail to address is how complex it is for demolitions crews to bring down buildings and what damage would be done to the explosives and wiring when the planes hit.

[sarcasm]I guess there must have been a demo crew on the bottom floor who ran up and rewired all the explosives so that they could be detonated....WAIT, it must have been the firefighters and cops, they were seen going up the stairwells.....[/sarcasm]

Bunch of friggin morons if you ask me.

I.G.B.
 
Next you'll be telling us it's all a plot to take over another country and raise gas prices here at home so oil men can make billions.

Never happen!
 
Biker said:
Good point, ArmedBear. Who would plant them and why? A fair question.
Biker

And the question a true scientist might ask, if he really believes that he has overwhelming evidence of their presence. What a true scientist would not do, however, is conclude that "Muslims didn't do it". There's simply no basis, at this point, for such a conclusion, even if the buildings were packed with explosives.
 
Manedwolf said:
Mormons also apparently believe that there's a Mormon planet out there. Seriously.

And I heard that 7th Day Adventists eat their young, so it must be true 'cause I HEARD IT ON THE INTERNET!!!


Um...I'm a Mormon. Be careful what you say because you don't know what the heck you are talking about. :rolleyes:
 
longeyes said:
Where was Mark Fuhrman on 9.11.05???

And I heard there was going to be a Jefferson Airplane reunion show, but they NEVER SHOWED UP! Where did they REALLY go? ;)
 
Just goes to show you, as fun as it is to pretend that only the "other people" believe in whacky anti-western conspiracy theories, we have our own solid little band of conspiracy-concocters right here at home.

The level of just barely hidden in anti-semitism in most of these theories is astounding....I thought we all knew better than that by now. A real shame, if you ask me.
 
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