(CA) Man accidentally shoots coworker with assault rifle

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Man accidentally shoots coworker with assault rifle


UNION-TRIBUNE BREAKING NEWS TEAM

10:51 a.m. June 2, 2006

SAN DIEGO – A man who brought an assault rifle to a Mount Hope auto shop accidentally shot and wounded a 17-year-old co-worker Friday morning as he was showing the gun off.

The shooting happened at Fleet Supply Inc. on Market Street near 41st Street at 8:21 a.m., said San Diego police Detective Gary Hassen.

The 42-year-old man who brought the Kalashnikov rifle, commonly known as an AK-47, to work did not know the gun was loaded, Hassen said.

There was no ammunition clip in the gun, but it still had a round in the chamber that discharged when the man pulled the trigger, police said.

The teenager was hospitalized with wounds to his right hip and left buttock, police said.

The gun's owner was arrested on suspicion of assault with a deadly weapon.

No one else was injured in the incident, police said.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20060602-1051-bn02shot.html
 
The four rules of Gun Safety again

Once again the four rules were not followed. These rules have a very hot thread going right now in this forum. This story would add ammunition (no pun intended) to that firestorm.
 
From what was discussed on calguns.net a lot of the facts in the story were wrong. Apparently this was one of those Armscor .22LR rifles.
 
There was no ammunition clip in the gun, but it still had a round in the chamber that discharged when the man pulled the trigger, police said.
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It's in California, right? So did this thing use actual stripper clips to be CA compliant, or are they using the wrong nomenclature to refer to a magazine?
 
Yea.. this happened a few days ago.
Here's a video report. http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/9315078/detail.html

I dont think it was one of those cheapy .22 "AK's" .. those are legal here because they are not centerfire rifles. On another news report they stated that the guy is going to face charges for possessing an Assault Weapon. They showed a picture of a rifle and it looked like a post ban AK.. thumbhole stock and such. Maybe that was just a stock photo though.
 
It's in California, right? So did this thing use actual stripper clips to be CA compliant, or are they using the wrong nomenclature to refer to a magazine?
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You mean the same nomenclature that Marlin and Remington both use?

And this was most likely one of three things:

1. Armscor 22LR AK

2. Pre-ban registered "Assault Weapon"

3. A genuine CA-illegal rifle
 
You are right....

at most hunting camps, the magazines are in a rack in the two-holer where the clips go in the gun.............chris3
 
I'm so sick and tired of seeing these ****** bags in the news. If I wasn't already busy enough defending my 2a rights some one always does something to make my fight harder. If he would of just shot himself it would of been a little easier for me to say he won a darwin award and it's one less person to worry about.:fire:
 
I was always taught that the first thing you do when handed a firearm, even if the person who handed it to you told you it was unloaded, is to check the chamber by cycling the action. This is what I also teach to my son. Friggin idiots are what gets the press everytime.

I go to the local gun shows quite often. There was a vendor that had a pistol I was interested in. He handed it to me and I pulled the slide back to inspect the barrel. He then became irate that I did this. :what: What's he trying to hide? I quickly handed the pistol back to him and went to another vendor and bought from him.

About 6 months later at the same show, there was an accidental discharge. Some 72 yr old yahoo picked up a pistol and you guessed it, the first thing he did was pull the trigger. The round ricochetted off the stone floor and into the knee of his 74 yr old buddy that was with him. The press was all over this and we almost lost the shows because of one a-hole. My first thought was that it was a planted round but then I thought of the vendor that I mentioned above. Eventually everything quieted down and the shows go on but now all actions have to be zip tied open even if being displayed in a case.
 
Checking the action is 2nd nature for me. I had an uncle get a little irate once. I was showing him my 1911. Before handing it to him, I dropped the mag and ejected the chambered round. I do the same when someone hands me a gun.
 
There was a vendor that had a pistol I was interested in. He handed it to me and I pulled the slide back to inspect the barrel. He then became irate that I did this.
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Checking the action is 2nd nature for me. I had an uncle get a little irate once.
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I don't get that. What is it about checking the action that would get someone upset? :confused:

I'd think that it would make them more secure, showing that you aren't an idiot by being safe.
 
I don't get that. What is it about checking the action that would get someone upset?
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Probably the same reason some boneheads get mad if a store clerk checks their ID when they use a credit card. "How dare you question ME on anything! I'm special and perfect!!"

I always thank the store clerk for checking my ID (because I know they take so much crap from idiots, and I hate credit card and identity thiefs), and I also compliment a gun handler who double-checks me on his good safety protocol.

But there are a lot of morons who would see the double-check as some sort of insult to them. Let them be insulted!!
 
Heh. I had a gun shop clerk questioning me when I checked the action. I was looking at a Rem 870, and I slid the pump back and looked in the chamber. The ensuing conversation went a little like this:

Clerk: We don't want to cause unnecessary wear on the guns.
Me: Why not?
Clerk: Because it makes them look used.
Me: Well, I'd feel safer handling this if I knew there wasn't ammunition in it.
Clerk: That's really not possible. We don't keep shotgun ammuniton behind the counter.
Me: Oh. Alright, thanks for your time anyway.

And I walked out, and because of this I'll never buy a gun from Dick's sporting goods (that, and they're priced insanely high).
 
Heh. I had a gun shop clerk questioning me when I checked the action. I was looking at a Rem 870, and I slid the pump back and looked in the chamber. The ensuing conversation went a little like this:

Clerk: We don't want to cause unnecessary wear on the guns.
Me: Why not?
Clerk: Because it makes them look used.
Me: Well, I'd feel safer handling this if I knew there wasn't ammunition in it.
Clerk: That's really not possible. We don't keep shotgun ammuniton behind the counter.
Me: Oh. Alright, thanks for your time anyway.

And I walked out, and because of this I'll never buy a gun from Dick's sporting goods (that, and they're priced insanely high).
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That clerk is such a bonehead:

A. You have every right to check the condition of the bore in gun you are about to (or at least might) purchase.

B. You have every right to check the action to see if it is to your liking. Is the slide pull too stiff, does the slide travel more (or less) than you like, is the grip you can get on the slide comfortable, etc?

C. There have been instances in the past where antis have taken live ammo into gunstores, gun shows, gun safety classes, etc. and loaded a firearm in the hopes of achieving a ND.

D. The clerk is a bonehead and never trust a bonehead with your (or anyone elses) safety.
 
"A dumbass with a gun is still a dumbass. "

now that's a phrase I might have to steal...I like that one!

On a serious note...it's people like that moron that give us "gun crazies" a bad reputation/name.
 
Did this gun have a selector switch to change from semi to full auto?

If not, then it was not an assault rifle, it was a rifle. We need to stop giving the anti’s more ammo to use against us. Every time that we use the term assault rifle to describe a semi-auto, we buy into their crap and make it easier for them to scrutinize our little black rifles, or our semi-auto AK’s or SKS’s, or FAL’s or whatever else they don’t think that we should be able to buy or own. Please, for everyone’s sake, unless it has a switch that you can flip to go from semi-auto to full auto, DON’T call it an assault rifle.:fire:

P.S. Sorry about the rant.
 
Immediately checking the chamber should be second nature to anyone who picks up a gun, even if the person who handed it to them had just checked it.
I end up checking mine 3, 4 times over even if I wasn't loading or shooting it just because it's a habbit whenever I pick up a gun.
Idiots like this just make our cause harder.
"Is it loaded?"
"Dunno, pull the trigger and find out"
:fire:
 
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