(CA) marine claims to be conscientious objector?

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I have a close family friend that went threw 4yrs of college and did the whole ROTC thing. He was suppose to go in the military last year but his mom bailed him out and spent $78,000 to get him out of going.

I seriously lost all respect for him.

I didn't join the military, but I didn't sign up and then turn around and cry to my mother.
 
Thumper.......ya beat me too it bud.

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You mean they may actually go to war and kill people??? The military does this????? Why I never..........:banghead:

Freakin' moron!!!! :cuss:
 
We have enough young men of principle and courage to do the tough and nasty job in Iraq. We do not need to add babysitting one such as this to their burdens.

This guy missed movement (in a time of war no less) and coward in the face of our enemy. It is not a new phenomenon and the UCMJ covers what to do with such offenders. His attempted defense however; CAN NOT be given ANY credibility. I can see the possibility of collecting up genuine conscientious objectors with a draft. With what it takes to enlist these days, however; it is NOT possible to get to the point of taking your oath without understanding that you are joining a military force, the purpose of which is self explanatory. As such this guy and his family should be ashamed but not the Corps.
 
Anytime you join up with a branch of Military Service, whether "active" or "reserve", there is always a chance that you may be called to active front line duty.


IDIOTA! ! ! !

p.s. The Marines are more likely to be called up first, from what I have seen over the last 20 years or so.


edited to fix my crummy typing. sheeeesh
 
I'm suprised this guy made it through boot camp at all. He was the guy crying when the DI got in his face or thrashed him. :rolleyes: Undisciplined maggot.
 
"They don't really advertise that they kill people,"
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ROFLMAO. What do you think the military does? What a freakin' idiot.
"It wasn't as well thought out as it should've been..."
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It wasn't as well thought out? Take some personal responsibility, idiot, as in "I didn't think it through well enough..."

Someone needs to be slapped upside the head, preferably by several very large non-coms.
 
I don't neccessarily want to hurt the guy or belittle him anymore (he did that quite thoroughly himself). I figure, no problem. Give back all monies and tuition assistance you've received, pay the government/taxpayers back for your training and room and board during boot camp, get dishonorably discharged (this really goes on your permanent record), never be allowed to own a gun and we'll call it even.

I don't have a problem with some instances of conscientious objecting, but I think it might be time for him to move to another country, one that hasn't supported a war in the last 100 years or so. Having other Marines fighting for him is OK, he just doesn't want to do it himself? :rolleyes:

By the way, I just looked it up in my Whimp to English Dictionary and it says that 'It wasn't as well thought out as it should've been' means 'I didn't think a major action would occur during my tenure of accepting taxpayer money.' ;)
 
I have no problem with concientious objectors. What I have a problem with is people who voluntarily join the military and then claim to be COs.
 
This :barf: was discussed quite a bit last night on THR, and it seems that he's also decided he's gay.

He definitely should not be allowed to be anywhere near our Marines. :cuss:
 
Ok fair enough. He can serve out the time in Antarctica counting penguins and get a dishonerable.
 
"They don't really advertise that they kill people," Funk said. "I didn't really realize the full implications of what I was doing and what it really meant to be in the service as a reservist."

Funk said he began doubting his fitness for military service during basic training at Camp Pendleton last spring when he felt uncomfortable singing cadence calls that described violence and screaming "Kill. Kill. Kill," during weapons training.
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Criminy! Even I, serving in a conscript army, in the infantry, know that war means killing. This guy is a wimp and needs to have his tender behind reared by the meanest DIs and then get some action. Or maybe the guy needs the same treatment as the recruits in FMJ.
 
-sigh- :rolleyes:

I'll bet he thought he was just so tough and cool playing Marine. But when he was finally called up to be a real one...

I think he's got one tiny, crusty brain cell playing ping-pong in his skull.
 
Might I suggest...

No discharge, general or otherwise. Rather, retrain him as a medic and then ship him to Iraq.
 
I remember a quote by a reservist that ran during the First Gulf War...

"I didn't sign up for the reserves to go into battle."

Obviously, just wanted to serve so as to suckle at the tit of college assistance.

He doesn't want to go?

Fine.

30 days brig time and a dishonorable discharge. Let him find out how tough life is with that dogging him.

If he's REALLY a man, he'd become a medic or corpsman. Marines have those, don't they?

I met a CO from the Vietnam era who was CO because he said he couldn't kill anyone. But that didn't stop him from serving, saving the lives of his fellows, and winning a Medal of Honor for it.
 
Disagree Gary.

If I were under fire and I took a hit, I'd sure as heck not want this fellow being the guy who is supposed to respond when I yell for a medic. Wouldn't want anyone serving on my side that was too dense to realize that military service can include war. Might forget that medical service means dealing with blood.
 
The Marines have Navy Corpsmen, not medics. As for this scumbag, I don't want him in. I want him to get 6 months confinement, a dishonorable discharge, and the rest of his frigging life ruined. I want an example made of everyone of these pieces of crap who suckle at the public mammary gland, and when it comes time to do the job, whine about "I don't want to!" or "no one told me I might have to do fight!" I got news for you, moron, that M-16 they trained you with wasn't just for having fun, so shut your pie hole!!
 
"I saw the valuable things you can learn like teamwork, leadership ? things you can learn in Boy Scouts," he said. "I saw it as a way to learn new things and meet new people. It was a way to get what I thought was missing in my life."
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Boy Scout oath has 'duty to God and country'. US Military oath has 'duty to protect the Constitution, from all enemies, foreign and domestic'.

I don't think this guy knows how to read or comprehend. :cuss:
 
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