Shawnee
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Hi "Benzy2"...
"What a bigger more powerful round gives is the ability to either be a worse shot and still come away with a dead deer or to shoot at a worse angle and still come away with a dead deer."
That is an excellent articulation of the ancient, and bad, mentality behind using a 30-ought-goofy and exactly the mindset that any Hunter Safety Instructor will teach students to NOT have.
The "worse shot" and the "shooter at worse angles" don't "come away with a dead deer". They leave the majority of wounded and suffering deer to die unrecovered in the woods and fields. They blaze away with a cannon - telling themselves that the noise and the "power" will make up for their laziness - using the gun's "power" as an excuse for sloppy, inhumane trigger-jerking - and when they wound a deer and it doesn't fall dead in their game pouch they take their 30-ought-slob and go look for another deer to shoot in the guts.
Someone can be a very, very good shot but if they refuse to use good judgement in their deer shooting they are nothing but coyote-feeders. And if they do use good judgement they don't need a cannon.
My neighbor crops deer legally and last year he killed 24 deer with 25 shots. The "extra" shot was a clean miss of a head shot attempted at about 300yds.
This year so far he is 15 deer with 15 shots. He uses a .22/250.
Sorry 'bout the broken fantasies but the "need" for something like a thirty-ought-baloney is just that - pure baloney.
Using an '06 isn't "wrong", per se - but it is wrong when someone uses it with the pretense that its' excess of power (and noise) will compensate for poor skills and/or poor judgement. And that goes on a whale of a lot more than the cannoneers will ever admit.
"What a bigger more powerful round gives is the ability to either be a worse shot and still come away with a dead deer or to shoot at a worse angle and still come away with a dead deer."
That is an excellent articulation of the ancient, and bad, mentality behind using a 30-ought-goofy and exactly the mindset that any Hunter Safety Instructor will teach students to NOT have.
The "worse shot" and the "shooter at worse angles" don't "come away with a dead deer". They leave the majority of wounded and suffering deer to die unrecovered in the woods and fields. They blaze away with a cannon - telling themselves that the noise and the "power" will make up for their laziness - using the gun's "power" as an excuse for sloppy, inhumane trigger-jerking - and when they wound a deer and it doesn't fall dead in their game pouch they take their 30-ought-slob and go look for another deer to shoot in the guts.
Someone can be a very, very good shot but if they refuse to use good judgement in their deer shooting they are nothing but coyote-feeders. And if they do use good judgement they don't need a cannon.
My neighbor crops deer legally and last year he killed 24 deer with 25 shots. The "extra" shot was a clean miss of a head shot attempted at about 300yds.
This year so far he is 15 deer with 15 shots. He uses a .22/250.
Sorry 'bout the broken fantasies but the "need" for something like a thirty-ought-baloney is just that - pure baloney.
Using an '06 isn't "wrong", per se - but it is wrong when someone uses it with the pretense that its' excess of power (and noise) will compensate for poor skills and/or poor judgement. And that goes on a whale of a lot more than the cannoneers will ever admit.