California Gun Owner Explains Why He Feels Partly Responsible for Gun Violence

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His gun, his pointless gesture.

Somehow he assumed the guilt for these murderers and instead of committing himself to work to get the help needed by these people he's decided he can solve the problem with a material gesture instead of putting the time into making mental health access easier.
 
When I read the article, it did bring back the memory of the following thread...

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?p=5928734
stchman said:
What an idiot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/12/magazine/12LIVES.html?_r=1

So one slow spring day I went to the garage, took out the handguns -- and smashed them with a 15-pound ax. I shattered the butt of the .38. I disfigured the barrel of the .25. I chased the Glock and the Smith & Wesson around the garage as they bounced from each blow. My hands began to burn from the repeated swinging. My lower back ached. But I eventually rendered the guns useless.

I put the guns in an industrial-strength trash bag. But then I imagined some kids rummaging around a suburban landfill and finding them, which made me picture the violent opening scene of a made-for-TV movie. So I added garden dirt and poured in some old paint. Then I added more, and I shook the sack and rolled it around. I picked up the bag and threw it in the trash.
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So there seems to be a trend happening every decade or so in the Golden State.
 
In my mind, this article points to two major problems with our society and gun owners in general...

1. There is a tendency among the public to accept the garbage we get in the press as fact, because too damn many people can't think beyond the nose in front of their face. My read of this story is that this guy was an anti to begin with, assuming anything in his story is true, which I doubt highly. Who verified this "story" anyway and why should I accept it as fact. No gun owner I know would ever destroy their firearms.

2. Gun Owners in general do a VERY POOR job of fighting for their rights. Organizing Gun Owners is like chasing bored cats. Hardly anyone wants to fight.

These are some of the reasons why we have a problem to begin with.
 
This is deserving of a low road response, what a moron. Stupid gesture that won't and can't do anything to stop violence committed with firearms. I guess this is how education works in California. Guilt the law abiding to give up their rights because and for criminals.
 
California Gun Owner Explains Why He Feels Partly Responsible for Gun Violence
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Some thoughts :

(former) California Gun Owner Explains Why He Feels Partly Responsible for Gun Violence.

I'm guessing he already did what he felt was necessary for his part in the rape responsibility department.

Someone can still choke to death on the parts. That gun is still a public nuisance and a danger to society at large.

Is it still good for a gift card at the next "buy back" ?

Was that gun actually his, or did it belong to the man in his life ?
 
CoRoMo said:
When I read the article, it did bring back the memory of the following thread...


Originally Posted by stchman View Post
What an idiot.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/12/ma...IVES.html?_r=1

So one slow spring day I went to the garage, took out the handguns -- and smashed them with a 15-pound ax. I shattered the butt of the .38. I disfigured the barrel of the .25. I chased the Glock and the Smith & Wesson around the garage as they bounced from each blow. My hands began to burn from the repeated swinging. My lower back ached. But I eventually rendered the guns useless.

I put the guns in an industrial-strength trash bag. But then I imagined some kids rummaging around a suburban landfill and finding them, which made me picture the violent opening scene of a made-for-TV movie. So I added garden dirt and poured in some old paint. Then I added more, and I shook the sack and rolled it around. I picked up the bag and threw it in the trash.
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So there seems to be a trend happening every decade or so in the Golden State.
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I took the time to read the whole article you linked.

I think that one was BS too.

The LAPD wouldn't have reacted that way and send him away.
He drove around with the guns in a card board box which would be illegal in CA.
Other stuff he described is just wrong, illegal, or doesn't make believable sense.

And then the guy, wanting to do 'the right thing' smashes the guns... and then puts them in a plastic bag with paint and dirt and throws them away.... polluting the environment in the process.


Especially this part he writes about after being turned away by LAPD

This time, I hauled the guns in a cardboard box. As I entered the police station, the cop there put a hand on his side arm and told me to drop the box. I did. After I explained my situation, he ran a background check on the firearms: clean. He checked my record: squeaky clean. Then he lightened up -- and tried to talk me into selling him the Glock and the Smith & Wesson, which he told me were worth a bundle.

"But they're not even registered in my name," I said, "and the owner is dead."

This was no problem, he assured me, because California gun laws were such that if my friend gave me his guns, registered in his name, before 1991 (wink wink), it would be perfectly legal for me to have them. And to sell them.
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He's saying the Glendale PD told him to keep breaking the law by driving around with them in a card board box and also wanted him to commit another crime by saying he was gifted the guns before 1991 to be legal for him to sell them to the cop.


The story isn't believable.


But boy does it show his determined hard work and resolution to protect us all. :rolleyes:
 
Those who beat their swords into plowshares shall be made to plow for those who don't.
 
"He's saying the Glendale PD told him to keep breaking the law by driving around with them in a card board box and also wanted him to commit another crime by saying he was gifted the guns before 1991 to be legal for him to sell them to the cop. "
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That story from the New York Times is another absolute lie concocted by the far left wing bliss ninnies in the anti-guns culture.

LAPD and LASD have long had a standing policy that anyone who wants to turn in his guns can do so by merely bringing them into one of their stations. The rule is to leave them in the car, unloaded, come into the front desk, tell the officer/deputy about the gun(s), and an officer or deputy will go out to the car with the turner-inner and relieve him of the guns.

Anyone in Los Angeles or Los Angeles county can do this. I understand that virtually every smaller police agency in Los Angeles County offers the same service to turner-inners.

As usual, another lie from the gun grabbers.

L.W.
 
That poor P95. The old P series were actually decent guns.

That guy makes me think of a quote from Forest Gump, "stupid is as stupid does."
 
Anyone in Los Angeles or Los Angeles county can do this. I understand that virtually every smaller police agency in Los Angeles County offers the same service to turner-inners.
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Id even go as far to say that I bet you'd be hard pressed to find any LE office in the USA that wont allow someone to turn in a gun.
 
The article in the original post should have the following disclaimer:

This article is purely fictional. Anhy similarities to real events is purely coincidental. No firearms were harmed in writing this article.
 
Both stories read like poorly contrived pieces of fiction. More like something Bloomberg and his cronies would come up with to further advance their hoplophobia agenda but from a different (and truly transparent), angle.
 
This is a great example of the failed logic retained by the gun control side. If this man is what he say's he is, "a responsible gun owner", then he would have taken proper measures to ensure none of his guns were stolen by criminals. Which means that particular firearm would have never harmed an innocent person. By grinding his firearm up, he weakened the "Armed Good Guy Team", and therefore strengthened the "Armed Bad Guy Team". The hashtag #OneLessGoodGuyWithAGun would have been more accurate!

In reality, this seems like a staged post. Like an anti-gunner got their hands on a cheap ruger and hacked it up, hoping to start a new trend. Hopefully the general gun-owner will see through this 5-year-old logic.
 
Sounds to me like the guy needs to see a "mental health professional" blaming a thing for people's choices.

I might add that removing the alcohol from your home is one of the approaches to dealing with a alcoholic in the house. Of course, they can walk into any liquor store that they please and buy more. And guess what? They don't have to suffer through a background check to buy that bottle.

Again.... it is about the person and choices they make.
 
Hey, if he was terrified that he personally was about to go on a mass shooting, good for him. Otherwise it was pretty pointless and cost him $350 or so.
 
Paladin7 said:
In my mind, this article points to two major problems with our society and gun owners in general...

1. There is a tendency among the public to accept the garbage we get in the press as fact, because too damn many people can't think beyond the nose in front of their face. My read of this story is that this guy was an anti to begin with, assuming anything in his story is true, which I doubt highly. Who verified this "story" anyway and why should I accept it as fact. No gun owner I know would ever destroy their firearms.

2. Gun Owners in general do a VERY POOR job of fighting for their rights. Organizing Gun Owners is like chasing bored cats. Hardly anyone wants to fight.

These are some of the reasons why we have a problem to begin with.
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you might be surprised how many 'young' gun owners have simply decided not to contest the issue peacefully anymore. we're just waiting for the war.
 
It is suspicious that the gun in question just happened to be an old model Ruger P95 that runs in the $229 range used. No one cut up a $900 SIG.

Almost like someone went into a gun shop looking for an inexpensive gun specifically with the intention of cutting it up as a prop.

Maybe, maybe not. But now that I think harder about that article, I do wonder.
 
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