MagnumDweeb
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I've been lurking at Calguns like mad. It's a great site with lots of interesting stuff about ongoing litigation. So much that I've decided to only shop on Amazon when using their store (so they get money to fight the California antis, and they do fight the antis).
Reading posts on the website it got me thinking about exceptions and exemptions for the gun roster. It's interesting some of what I read. So much that I spent last night playing with my CAD files (great for use with a CNC mini-mill), and worked up an easy to make 95% receiver for a 1911, and an attachment that renders the 1911 a single shot gun.
I was reading other posts and found that some FFLs in California already does these exception builds before selling the guns but not all. Also of great importance is the rendering of double action revolvers as only Single Action revolvers. I got pics of some of the kits used to render double action revolvers single action (some requirements still for the barrel length and overall length but it seems if you are buying a 4" barrel revolver you are fine), so I'm starting my CAD files on single action only hammers and triggers given I can't find info anywhere on where to buy the kits from S&W and even if I could I don't know if it would economical for my purposes to buy the kits as part of the process.
My main obsession, reason you could say, is I'm going to likely be buying a house by the end of this year. The foreclosures in my area are going for $40,000 and less without liens and title encumberances, and we're talking about 4 bed, 3 bath setups, some with detached structures. I'm in a fortuitous position to buy one such property outright or at least get an awesome mortgage on one and as such it wouldn't be in an HOA area, and I found some of them qualify for running a small business out of (check with City Hall and such).
So naturally I want an FFL. I just don't know if a Gunsmith's FFL will let me do what I really want to do which is modify existing frames to comply with California's laws without damaging or modifying the original serial number. I don't know how much pent up demand there is but now with S&W and Ruger pulling out of selling guns in California it might start to build.
I wouldn't probably do more than a few builds a week for that purpose and while I would intend for it to be a business I don't think it would be terribly successful. It'd just be my fun way of sticking my finger in the antis eyes. Doing the single action revolver and single shot conversions in my house and then selling them at a price not much more than what they originally go for in Florida (add $200 for my time, labor, and materials).
I just wonder if I can bring a gun into the shop from a distributor using the gunsmith FFL and then sell it online over say gunbroker to transfer to California. I know it would be a headache but if it stands to do some good what does it matter in the long run. I thought about doing custom AK builds (so they look like Saigas) but then I'd have to get a manufacturer's FFL in all likelihood to make the business economical and hold down costs for the customers (would turn out the flats, trunions, and construction myself) and I don't think there is as great a demand for those as there are for handguns.
What do you folks think, is there a pent up demand in California for handguns that can be legally converted from single shot or single action, to their full intended glory. I wouldn't be running a charity, and I'd make a little money but I don't know if there is anyone already doing this. I've checked and checked and checked, and it just looks like some individual gunshops do it in California but it's not a mainstream thing. Essentially I would be lawfully converting the firearms over here in Florida for sale in California and letting folks do what they will with the product. Say for instance converting the revolver to double action or the single shot 1911 to normal function.
Reading posts on the website it got me thinking about exceptions and exemptions for the gun roster. It's interesting some of what I read. So much that I spent last night playing with my CAD files (great for use with a CNC mini-mill), and worked up an easy to make 95% receiver for a 1911, and an attachment that renders the 1911 a single shot gun.
I was reading other posts and found that some FFLs in California already does these exception builds before selling the guns but not all. Also of great importance is the rendering of double action revolvers as only Single Action revolvers. I got pics of some of the kits used to render double action revolvers single action (some requirements still for the barrel length and overall length but it seems if you are buying a 4" barrel revolver you are fine), so I'm starting my CAD files on single action only hammers and triggers given I can't find info anywhere on where to buy the kits from S&W and even if I could I don't know if it would economical for my purposes to buy the kits as part of the process.
My main obsession, reason you could say, is I'm going to likely be buying a house by the end of this year. The foreclosures in my area are going for $40,000 and less without liens and title encumberances, and we're talking about 4 bed, 3 bath setups, some with detached structures. I'm in a fortuitous position to buy one such property outright or at least get an awesome mortgage on one and as such it wouldn't be in an HOA area, and I found some of them qualify for running a small business out of (check with City Hall and such).
So naturally I want an FFL. I just don't know if a Gunsmith's FFL will let me do what I really want to do which is modify existing frames to comply with California's laws without damaging or modifying the original serial number. I don't know how much pent up demand there is but now with S&W and Ruger pulling out of selling guns in California it might start to build.
I wouldn't probably do more than a few builds a week for that purpose and while I would intend for it to be a business I don't think it would be terribly successful. It'd just be my fun way of sticking my finger in the antis eyes. Doing the single action revolver and single shot conversions in my house and then selling them at a price not much more than what they originally go for in Florida (add $200 for my time, labor, and materials).
I just wonder if I can bring a gun into the shop from a distributor using the gunsmith FFL and then sell it online over say gunbroker to transfer to California. I know it would be a headache but if it stands to do some good what does it matter in the long run. I thought about doing custom AK builds (so they look like Saigas) but then I'd have to get a manufacturer's FFL in all likelihood to make the business economical and hold down costs for the customers (would turn out the flats, trunions, and construction myself) and I don't think there is as great a demand for those as there are for handguns.
What do you folks think, is there a pent up demand in California for handguns that can be legally converted from single shot or single action, to their full intended glory. I wouldn't be running a charity, and I'd make a little money but I don't know if there is anyone already doing this. I've checked and checked and checked, and it just looks like some individual gunshops do it in California but it's not a mainstream thing. Essentially I would be lawfully converting the firearms over here in Florida for sale in California and letting folks do what they will with the product. Say for instance converting the revolver to double action or the single shot 1911 to normal function.
