Called into the office

[TexasRifleman]

I just hate seeing kids with guns no matter what, like i tell everyone there not toys.
But what the heck do I know.

Not a lot apparantly. Spelling and grammar included.

Nope, no kids with guns. What an awful thing to teach a child...

Like this poor kid at a competition in California. What will become of such a child. Horrible parents.....

Or these kids from an Allegheny County 4H Pheasant Hunt. Ruined lives I tell you.

The worst one is this kid, he won the Gold in a Texas 4-h Skeet tournament with 119 out of 125 targets.

No. Kids should NEVER be around guns. Imagine the things that could happen to them.

Like you said "No kids with guns, no matter what."

 

[Two Cold Soakers]

fattsgalore opines:

I just hate seeing kids with guns no matter what, like i tell everyone there not toys.

Soakers sez

That's what the teachers and administrators need to know. They are not toys.

My five year old knows they're not toys. She shot a coffee can with her 28 ga and saw what it'll do. She prefers her BB gun for the time being.

When my three year old asks if she can play with the 'wood one' (wood gripped handgun), I say "No".
"If you want to wait while I recheck for a clear chamber (showing the light through the breech) you may hold it"​

The toilet is not a toy, twenty amps of 120v @ 60 hertz isn't a toy, The wood stove is not a toy, but I sure teach my kids how to make them work.

Comments like this:

delete the pics dude. I know it aint worth losing your kids.

perpetuate the ignorance.

:banghead: ad nauseum.

 

[armedandsafe]

I got accosted by a middleschool teacher just this week.

MST: "You gave (my granddaughter) a RIFLE?"

Me: "Yes, I did. A Thompson Center 50. You should have seen her grin."

MST: "Will you adopt me?"



Pops

 

[trickyasafox]

cute story glad it worked out

 

[cold dead hands]

Being the kind of person I am, I would march on in to that office and say, "Excuse me, but I seem to recall that this is the U.S. of A. and we still have all of our rights that entitle my child to bring pictures to school in order to defend his/her character. Do not bother me with your insane notions. You may contact me in regards to a true emergency or a real behavior problem otherwise I tell you this; you are not married to me, shut up!"

 

[kis2]

well done indeed.

 

[mek42]

Glad that you all get to do some fun family stuff together.

Second, it probably wouldn't be too good for your daughter to raise a big stink about whether or not the pics are ok and might someday be repeated. I hope she isn't bearing any of the fallout from the pics.

However, the school's response is beyond the pale even from my candy butt socialist libertarian worldview. Not wanting kids to 'play' at shooting each other is ok - promoting firearm safety - especially when young children don't really understand what it mean to really be shot and killed. But your pics show that your daughter knows the basics of firearms safety - her finger is absolutely nowhere near the triggers. The only way those pics could be better is if they were actually a movie showing that she checked the actions to be clear - and then they wouldn't be pics anymore.

I'm going to stop now before I rant.

 

[pax]

fattsgalore ~

That's just silly.


Scott ~

Good for you.

pax (steadfastly resisting the impulse to post a few pics of her own kids with guns...)

 

[scurtis_34471]

Second, it probably wouldn't be too good for your daughter to raise a big stink about whether or not the pics are ok and might someday be repeated. I hope she isn't bearing any of the fallout from the pics.

I actually have a very good relationship with the teacher and the administration at the school and I wouldn't want to jeopardize that. I think the fact that they never said a word to my daughter is pretty cool. I am really not that annoyed with the school at all. I'm mostly annoyed that any of this is even an issue. The only reason the school even objected is because of the crap they have to take from freaked out hopolophobes when their kids come home and tell them about seeing pictures of guns. They were almost apologetic about it.

I still think getting called to the principal's office is almost funny and I still think the boost to my girl's confidence was worth it.

 

[Robert Hairless]

I would schedule another meeting with the principal of that school. I would show her the photographs below, point out that your daughter is being raised as an American, and was photographed in traditional American poses that are part of traditional American history.

I would then ask the principal why the school supports anti-American attitudes and why it has failed in its duty to teach its students American history.

There are also First Amendment issues here and I would mention them too. But I would certainly address the incompetence of both the principal and teacher.

This photograph is of the Minuteman statue in Battle Green Square at Lexington, Massachusetts. The flag displayed in front of the statue represents the United States of America:



This photograph is the reverse of the U.S. quarter dollar issued in the year 2000 by the government of the United States of America to commemorate the Commonwealth of Massachusetts:

This photograph is of the Minute Man statue in Concord, Massachusetts. Its likeness is that of Captain Isaac Davis, the first patriot killed in the Battle of Lexington and Concord, on April 19, 1775. The statue's sculptor was Daniel Chester French, who also designed the Lincoln memorial in Washington, DC.

 

[gaston_45]

TexasRifleman, are you involved in the 4-H program in Texas? I'm a state trainer in Oregon.

scurtis_34471, you might look into getting your daughter involved in the 4-H shooting program. Florida has a very active program, in fact, the Camp Ocala matches are near you I think. I see you are doing great job with your daughter, it might be a good idea to get her around other kids that are in the same position she is. It's always good to be around those that have the same interests as you and you will get to meet parents that are also dealing with the same things you are. Here's the link to the Florida 4-H program website in case you might like to see what the program is about. http://polk.ifas.ufl.edu/shootingsports.htm

 

[ArfinGreebly]

Pax

Poooooossst the piiiiiiccccturezzzzzz . . .

Poooossssssst themmmm.

You know you waaannnnnnt toooooooo.

Poooosssssssst the precioussssss piiiicccturezzzzzzz.

C'mon, Pax, share already!

 

[Caimlas]

As a small disclaimer, I should tell you that she is in a private Christian school. I would not have pulled this stunt in a public school, for obvious reasons.

Precisely why I'll be home schooling my children. I'd hardly call that a 'stunt' - that's just giving your kid the ammunition they need to fight the flame war.

Mainstream Christians today are, at worst, ardent socialist peaceniks. And I don't mean that to be insulting to Christians who don't fit that categorical classification - but organized Christianity is, to a large extent, anti-gun, for the socialization of health care, expansion of government, and could generally give two licks about the Constitution except when it suits them.

This is pretty well illustrated by your commentary on how the school asked you not to do it anymore. It demonstrates the acknowledgment that Guns Are Bad - whether the personal views of the administrators, or the households of predominantly Christian families who send their children to school there. (Now, I realize that most Christian schools don't have 100% actual Christian students - my experience is about 50% - but just the same...)

 

[RangerVA]

Great Pics!

 

[Neo-Luddite]

My kids are small yet--the school here has a policy of 'no firearm company logos or images' on clothing, notebooks, etc. An NRA or similar org crest they really couldn't do anything about but they clearly apply preasure. I was asking my nephew how about a "G.E." or "Singer" Tee shirt. How about 'General Dynamics' on a hat? My wife won't let me push it, but I'll want to sooner or later.

This is a rural area where MANY kids hunt and yet the policies leach into everything. Columbine groupthink is everywhere and serves no purpose.

Anyway, great pics. My oldest will probably start shooting before she starts kindergarten (provided we get her reading first--SOME skills take priority to firearms).

 

[chris in va]

It's not so much the teachers as it is the administrative staff and other students. They're taught that all firearms are bad and need to be instantly reported if anything is so much as mentioned at school.

I've got a neighbor that had his JH kid get suspended for talking about guns. Another kid accidentally brought his airsoft pistol in his backpack, a kid on the bus happened to see it and reported him to the school. Suspended for 2 weeks.

So sending pictures of your kid with guns would be very foolish in the public school system.

 

[skinnyguy]

SCurtis,

Two thumbs up for you, and two thumbs WAAAAY up for your daughter, as has been said before, the look on her face is PRICELESS!!

And PHOOEY on those who freak because you are teaching your daughter discipline, concentration, eye-hand coordination, responsibility, and having FUN while you are doing it. How can that POSSIBLY be wrong?

Keep up the good work, your girl will grow up loving her dad and holding you very dear to her heart FOREVER. That alone is worth any amount of fecal matter that anybody wants to throw at you over the firearms.

This is my youngest daughter (17) at the range this past week. The large pic is her with my Ruger P89DC, her first bullseye ever, and it was at 25 feet, the inset pic is her "don't fool with me" look and a formerly-sealed beer can she took out at 40 feet with my Bry........ HER Bryco 59. She LOVES that gun!!

Disclaimer: Although I pulled the mag from the Bryco, and cycled the slide 4 times, inspected and showed her the empty chamber, and then dry fired it toward the ground, she was very hesitant to do the pose she is in.

 

[mrcpu]

(Now, I realize that most Christian schools don't have 100% actual Christian students - my experience is about 50% - but just the same...)

Heh. I think that's being generous. Christian schools seem to be the dumping grounds for all the parent who thought the minor issues in public school were insurmountable...

We homeschool. And we shoot a lot.

 

[RevolvingCylinder]

Not gonna B.S. you for once I'm with the School, sorry dude. I just hate seeing kids with guns no matter what.

Yes. Let's keep it the "forbidden fruit".

"No, Johnny. You can't see or handle the firearms. I most certainly won't teach you to handle one safely." No, he won't find his way into your gun safe to find out himself. Because we all know kids aren't curious or clever. That won't cause him to shoot himself or his sister accidentally.

Kids just learn everything on their own. Let's just tell them to avoid sex and nothing else about it. Most certainly don't tell them that if they do(even if you don't want them to) that they should know about STD's and pregnancies and the importance of safe sex.

I pray that you don't have kids.

 

[Robert Hairless]

fattsgalore:

Not gonna B.S. you for once I'm with the School, sorry dude. I just hate seeing kids with guns no matter what.

I've known people to have child sevices called on them for litterally yelling at thier kids in public.(not exagerating) Trust me delete the pics dude. I know it aint worth losing your kids. Sorry to preach.

I know what you mean. I just hate seeing adults with guns no matter what. It sets a bad example for the kids.

I'm even worried that some kids or immature people might see the word "gun" here and be scarred for life. So instead of calling them "guns" how about we come up with a name for them such as "fiddleboopers"?

Do you own a fiddlebooper?

I don't think it's a good idea for the schools to even mention stuff like wars. Revolutions are bad medicine too. I also don't like sexism for sure. So I was like thinking that maybe the schools could teach that after the Founding Peoples had a friendly negotiation with the European Community about national borders they arrived at a mutually satisfactory agreement, celebrated it at a tea party in Boston because it was in a state that was free of fiddleboopers, and decided to commemorate it annually on July 4th because it already was a holiday anyway and there were lots of good cartoons on TV.

No B.S. ("B.S." means "Ballerina Slippers." Don't want to offend anyone.)

 

[swingset]

My daughter went through this exact same thing. On "What did you do over summer" Emma told the class she shot with her dad and cousins all summer. The boys ridiculed her and said she probably was shooting "cap guns".

So, I called the teacher and asked if it was ok that emma brought in some pictures, the teacher to my surprise said "Sure, that'd be great. My son shoots too!"

Cool!!

So, Emma goes to school with her pictures and makes the boys eat crow. I made sure to send ones with guns the boys would appreciate.

(fattsgalore, I hope this picture gives you hives)

Our school is a smaller rural school, so they don't have any blissninny "zero tolerance" crap (yet). Thank God.

 

[03Shadowbob]

That's great. Good for you!
It does remind me of a funny story concerning my 8 year old yesterday in class. They were discussing drugs and how they are so bad for you, etc. and my daughter tells her teacher that "My daddy does drugs and I don't want him to." I was appalled to say the least. I do not do drugs.
Come to find out the school is teaching them that cigarettes, cigars, alcohol are drugs. Now those, I do partake in. I had to explain to her that these things are not illegal.
Now I am waiting on a call from school today. Should be fun:banghead:

 

[Autolycus]

I think you should be proud of your daughter and she should be proud of you.

Seriously though public schools are crazy. If I ever have kids I would put them into private school. This incident is making me reevaluate this position.

Home schooling it is.

 

[Hokkmike]

As a school teacher I see pictures of kids with guns, and their deer, all of the time. More than half of the junior high kids I teach have their "own" guns. We even have a gun club at our school and 30 or so kids go to the range supervised by teachers, who are also shooters and safety experts, every Thursday. The guns, of course, are NOT stored or allowed on campus - but the pictures certainly are.

Aside from being a little "in your face", you did nothing wrong.

I think in a few more generations we will be in serious trouble unless we do MORE with our kids.

 

[WeThePeople]

It is good to be an American!