Can a shotgun be "too much" for HD?

[Javelin]

Wow I just read that article from the box of truth and it has seriously changed my thoughts on pellet selection. I am only going to use 00 or 000 buck in my HD shotgun. And it still wont penetrate as many walls as a 9mm!

 

[Threecard]

Why not both a handgun and a shotgun? Can't I have both?

In all seriousness the shotgun in the corner doesn't take up much room but can't really compare to the Glock under the pillow for little used space. Besides, I may not have time to reload!

In my totally imagined (and I hope it stays that way) scenario, the wife has the handgun. She's better with it than I am anyway!

And if that doesn't deserve a big grin, I don't know what does!

 

[trackaddict88]

You're right!

 

[chieftain]

Yeah... at the top of the list of species that will survive. That is a very silly statement chief.

Only silly to those that have never been in a firefight. Those of us that have been in firefights, would never use a pistol if given a choice of long arms. No professional will knowingly go to a firefight or probable firefight without a long arm if available. NONE!

The reason is that compared to even realatively weak fighting rifles Caliber like the AR15 fighting handguns are pathetically underpowered. Hand gun power is a myth. If you think handgun caliber is the question, you don't understand the problem.

More penetration, with less power. That is a what a handgun gets you.

shotgun-defense, handgun-offense

Shotgun/rifle's for fighting, Handguns are for convenience. AS the guru's of virtually all tactical schools will tell you, the handgun is only to fight back to your rifle/shotgun, or because a long arm is not available.

In home the shotgun is much safer to use in respect to over penetration, and more effective on flesh and blood VCA's that may come calling than any fighting handgun.

Wow I just read that article from the box of truth and it has seriously changed my thoughts on pellet selection. I am only going to use 00 or 000 buck in my HD shotgun. And it still wont penetrate as many walls as a 9mm!

Bingo!!

I use #1 inside in either my dog eared coach double gun, or 1st two up of the 7 in the tube of my 590. Followed by all 00 buck, with 5 slugs on the stock and another five 00buck in the pouch. (to have the #1 buck first up you load those two last in the tube/magazine)

Number 1 Buck is the lightest buck the FBI recommends using.

Go figure.

Fred

 

[Fred Fuller]

Well, let's see.

Glock 19 = 9mm = .356"
Projectile weight, up to 147 grains
MV = 1000- 1200fps

12 Ga = .730
Projectile weight- one ounce (or more)- 1 oz = 437.5 grains
MV = 1200- 1600fps

I'll take a 12 gauge, thanks. With a heaping side order of 'been shootin' one all my life' plus some 'good training and practice too.'

But what I choose should have little to do with what anyone else chooses. People differ, circumstances differ. Use what you are best with for HD, and if you want to learn a different platform, get some GOOD training (not all training is good training) and then PRACTICE what you learned until it is second nature.

And please don't fall victim to all the myths...

lpl/nc

 

[Markbo]

Only silly to those that have never been in a firefight.

Color me lucky then - along with 99.99(9999%?) of the population. Obviously if you are planning on going into a firefight, you choose the best tool and sidearms are just that.... side-arms... not primary small arms (rifles). No argument there... the old never take a knife to a gunfight metaphor.

But my point was you do not take into account the situation, size, dimensions, angles, darkness and vicinity of neighbors, shared walls, etc, etc, with your previous statement. There is no way that your statement is valid for every person, their family and their personal living situation. It was too simplistic and in many, many, many scenarios it is not only a viable option it is a better option.