Can bodyguards carry concealed in anti states like IL,NY,and Ca ?

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You can get a CCW any where if your job is to protect the rich and power full and their money.
 
Some states have "Private Police" or "Private Investigator" licenses that allow one to CCW.

Back when I lived in Kansas (before they got CCW) I looked into the PI license there ... it would have allowed me to CCW, however I had to have a job in unarmed security for a certain amount of time before I could even apply for the license (and then the security company I worked for would have to send in the paperwork). Since I didn't work for a security company that pretty much ended that quest right then and there. Also, I don't think the Kansas PI license allowed for carry when "off duty".
 
Funny you asked... just last year i used to work at 223 Broadway near City Hall, Manhattan. I'm standing outside smoking, and this armored truck pulls over. Two security guards come out, grab some bags, and start walking. One of them, upholsters the weapon, takes the friggin safety off, and walks with gun in one hand, and bag in the other across the street. And I thought to myself... so it's ok to hold a gun in your hand in public if you're defending somebody else's money, but not if it's your life. God I hate that place. FL is so much better.

Anyways, the two guys went inside a bank and I can only assume one of them holstered the handgun once inside. But it really disturbed me. Guy was walking like a tough guy trying to prove something. Still sends chills down my spine when i think about that moment.
 
One of them, upholsters the weapon, takes the friggin safety off, and walks with gun in one hand, and bag in the other across the street.

Not that I agree with it but I've seen that in a lot of places other than NY.

In many cases where there is no provison for carry permits to out of state residents, bodyguards are replaced by local bodyguards.

Unless you're Ted Kennedy then they don't bother you.
 
while doing snow removal this past winter, there was a lot we did where an armored car company was stationed. It would pull in lot, one guy would get out, draw his weapon,wait till truck backed into building, then he would step inside, take knee as the overhead door came down. That was their policy day or night
 
Guy was walking like a tough guy trying to prove something.
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Standard operating policy for armored car crews is to do this (not the look tough part trying to prove something, just the carry in hand while escorting the bucks). I have to admit I have never seen one take a safety off, maybe if only because I have never seen anyone carry a 1911 or single action pistol on one of these jobs. Usually they carry double action semi-autos or revolvers that do not routinely have a safety engaged. It is rather ridiculous that it is okay in NYC for a security guard to safeguard the pennies with pistol in hand, but not okay for the citizen to even own a gun and carry it for self protection. Then agagin isn't that how it always is for the rich and moronic.

All the best,
GB
 
I believe there is a system in IL for private investigators, armored car guards, and bodyguards to carry though I am unfamiliar with it. I believe they need a card called a PERC card or something similar. And tehy need to take a firearms course.

Either way it is upsetting that the rich and famous are granted the ability to carry for protection of themselves and their money while us peasants are not allowed to. I am so sick of the hypocrisy I see everywhere.
 
How about Rosie ?

Sure. While your at it, ask Rosie. Not only does Rosie hire armed body guards, she has a CCW permit in California. I read this on her own blog, about the time she had the big gun-debate with Elizabeth Hasslebeck.

On her blog, Rosie said she hired the body guards, because she "spoke out against the NRA". I'm sure you are all aware that the NRA regularly hires hit-men, to wack all those who disagree with them.

The guards were even accompanying her kids to school. When the school found out the guards were armed, they weren't too happy. So, Rosie had the guards leave the guns behind, when they were going to the school. When word of that got out, Rosie was worried that the imagined bad guys would find out, and get her kids.

All of which begs the question; Does she still support Gun-Free School Zones, or is that just for other people's kids?
 
Thats what i was wondering

The rich want themselves and thier money protected by guns,but everybody else cant
 
Pretty sure Illinois allows no concealed carry except for the police and Chicago Alderwomen.
 
California tends to issue permits pretty freely to anyone who gets paid to protect people or things.

If you want to protect yourself and your family, though, that's another story. You have to be able to pay someone else to do it.

California does not accept any out-of-state permits AFAIK, even if the permit holders have them in a professional capacity. I suspect that has as much to do with collecting the check every year as it does with actual permitting requirements. Probably more.
 
Some of these laws are very strange. If you are one of the many Federal US police. That being Border Patrol, ICE, FBI Marshalls, Etc. You can of course carry your side arm in states with strict gun laws etc. You must however carry the gun issued to you by your agency.
If you choose to carry a pistol not issued by your agency, you must have a CCW for that state like anyone else. In some cases you can send your personal weapon in to the agency and have it cleared for carry. That gun however would have to be on a list of guns not issued but approved for carry.
For example the little S&W Mdl.36 and Mdl.60 have been dropped from the list so these are nor longer off duty carry weapons. The fine little Kahrs are not on the list. Anyway gun rules are strange.:what:
 
My friend (and registered THR member) works for a security agency in Central IL and once explained to me what would be required for him to carry a firearm on duty. He did not mention whether open carry or CCW was their policy, only that firearm carry was most definitely possible with the right job placement. I will alert my friend to this thread and ask him to shed light on the subject according to their policy.

It is sickening that the use of a firearm is acceptable to defend a 3rd parties assets but not a 1st person's rights. Money money money :cuss:
 
In Texas a Personal Protective Officer license is required. You can get it without being licensed for other security work. However your licenses has to be carried by a company, you can't carry it yourself. This means you have to start your own corporation if you don't want to work for someone else, which isn't a bad way to distance yourself from liability. You are allowed to then carry anywhere in the state of Texas so long as an assignment.

-Jenrick
 
Yes

The very presence of guns any where and everywhere deters evil. George Washington
 
In Texas a Personal Protective Officer license is required. You can get it without being licensed for other security work. However your licenses has to be carried by a company, you can't carry it yourself. This means you have to start your own corporation if you don't want to work for someone else, which isn't a bad way to distance yourself from liability. You are allowed to then carry anywhere in the state of Texas so long as an assignment.
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Maybe you could contract with your corporation for personal protection, and the corporation could then hire you for the job ;)
 
unny you asked... just last year i used to work at 223 Broadway near City Hall, Manhattan. I'm standing outside smoking, and this armored truck pulls over. Two security guards come out, grab some bags, and start walking. One of them, upholsters the weapon, takes the friggin safety off, and walks with gun in one hand, and bag in the other across the street. And I thought to myself... so it's ok to hold a gun in your hand in public if you're defending somebody else's money, but not if it's your life. God I hate that place. FL is so much better.

Anyways, the two guys went inside a bank and I can only assume one of them holstered the handgun once inside. But it really disturbed me. Guy was walking like a tough guy trying to prove something. Still sends chills down my spine when i think about that moment.
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Yep, in places where everyone else is unarmed, having a weapon can really make those with them feel bold. Whether that is the Government or the criminal classes!

It is sickening that the use of a firearm is acceptable to defend a 3rd parties assets but not a 1st person's rights. Money money money
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Thats because its the people with money that make the rules!
 
The PERC card exists in Illinois; it's called the "Tan Card" more commonly.
It's not really a CCW; as I understand it (and I could be wrong, I get a lot of conflicting stories on this aspect of Illinois law) the PERC card only allows you to be armed while on duty or on the way directly between work and home. There's even a time limit; if it takes you more than the allotted time to get home, too bad.
 
I used to carry concealed (for private security work) in ILL. FYI, If your job stated that you are always "on-call," then you can carry 24/7---no time limit. Otherwise, you legally have 1hour before and after your shift (travel time)

You need to carry: Your DL, FOID, PERC, and FAC while carrying though!

forgot to add

DL = Driver's license

FOID = Firearms owners ID card, (needed to posess, buy, sell, etc guns in ILL)

PERC= (forgot what it stands for) Basic armed security license, you get this after taking all the classes and getting fingerprinted. Issued by the state, your property

FAC = Firearms Authorization Card, issued by and property of your employer. "permission slip" to carry from your employer, turned in when you get sick of all this **** (and Chicago politics), quit your job, and move to Texas.
 
Don Gwinn: You are correct as far as I know. Once your assignment ends you have 1 hour to get home and store your firearm. As well as one hour before you start work to carry yourgun while on the way to your job.

Either way I think it would be interesting to see if there is a loophole allowing one to bodyguard ones own self.
 
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