Can I use .22lr in a .22mag revolver?

[orangeninja]

My reason for asking is thus. My wife won't shoot. She won't go to the range, I can't talk her into it...yada, yada. I've tried to get her to shoot a .38 but she doesn't like the kick. She tried a Glock 26...same thing. I've tried larger guns but they are too heavy...she doesn't mind shooting a .22lr however when I can DRAG her to the range. Her only complaint was the Buckmark was too heavy.

The other night she thought someone was trying to get in the house while I was at work. Dogs acting weird, etc. She later told me about it and I told that next time to get one of my guns. She said she didn't know how to use them so I tried to show here but she isn't interested.:banghead:

So here is my line of thinking. She will not learn to use a gun until it is too late. We've discussed it to no avail. She wants a light weight gun that is "fun" to shoot (by fun she means not too loud and doesn't kick). She likes .22lr but I don't like it as a defense caliber. 22.Mag is better but still not great....but I know that she'll at least shoot it.

So practice ammo wise...will a .22lr shoot out of a taurus .22mag gun? I want an ultra-light 2 inch snubbie which should be light and "fun". Since she likes .22lr I can stoke it with .22lr for practice then put it in a drawer next to the bed with .22mag, as at the point she ever needs to use it defensively, she won't even notice the noise and kick.

Any advice?

BTW...forget "get a 9mm" or "get her a .38"....it's a moot point. "Get her a .32, .25 or even a .380" is not a good idea either....

 

[georgeduz]

no u can not shoot 22lr out of 22 mag. there not that bad just alot louder,the bigger pistols seem to have less recoil, bring her to the range with a good pair of earmuffs.my young lady is 120lbs and she has a glock mod30 45 auto.and 38 is always a good choice.

 

[redneck]

NO.......

No you can't shoot .22LR out of a .22mag revolver UNLESS it has interchangeable cylinders and you have a .22LR cylinder for it.
The bore size is close enough that it will work, but the chamber size is much to different. Its not just a length issue like you have with some other combinations. The .22 mag is also slightly bigger around.

I don't know of any double action revolvers available with both cylinders and to be honest, I think there is a big fault in your plan. .22 mag out of a revolver doesn't kick at all really, but the blast is deafening (louder than my taurus 92 in 9mm), and the concussion is pretty severe n comparison to a .22LR.You can definitely feel the blast.
I know you plan on having her practice with the .22LR but I would be afraid that switching cold to .22 mag in a stressful situation would be a bad choice. I think the blast would probably startle her so much that it would really hinder her ability for a follow up if necessary.

Given all your considerations, I think you need to try and get her to try out some of the smaller autos. They shouldn't have the concussion of a revolver and the action will soak up some of the recoil. I know thats not what you wanted to hear, but thats my opinion having shot a .22mag revolver.

 

[dasmi]

I don't know how much a buckmark weighs, but this is 18 OZ.
http://www.taurususa.com/products/product-details.cfm?model=94B2UL&category=Revolver
If all she'll shoot is a light .22lr gun, then get her a revolver, of the highest capacity possible. Then if a round fails, she can just keep pulling the trigger.

 

[grimjaw]

A friend of mine won't shoot handguns unless someone is behind her, helping her support the gun. She doesn't like the blast or recoil. She's much less resistant to shooting .17 or .22 caliber rimfire rifles; even likes it if they are 'black and evil looking.' Maybe you could interest her in shooting .22LR with a rifle for awhile, to get her comfortable with the cartridge, and move up from there. Pushing it on people rarely works.

HTH, jmm

 

[orangeninja]

I think I'll go with a .22lr ultralight in stainless. It'll look good...not kick....not be too loud...and light.

It beats her trying to hit a badguy with a phone book or broom.

 

[dasmi]

Nine rounds of .22lr isn't anything to sneeze at. I'm tempted to get one myself.

 

[461]

Sounds like you need to get her a long gun. Ruger 10/22, 10/22mag no kick, quiet, lots of rounds. Lever guns in .357 kick about as much as a .22lr and will give real firepower. Possibly a .410, Mossberg makes a dandy little home defense model.

Bottom line is if a person isn't willing to learn how to shoot then they have no business with one even if in a bad situation. An attacker is going to take one look at her with that snubby in her shaking hand,holding it like she's more scared of it than him ,and he'll take it right away from her. Then you've not only surrendered your lady, but put another black market gun on the street. Crappy things to say for sure, but it's your responsibility to make her see reality.

 

[orangeninja]

"Bottom line is if a person isn't willing to learn how to shoot then they have no business with one even if in a bad situation."

Easy for you to say...

As for disarming her...I doubt it...most badguys run away from an armed victim. Should she get a particularly determined one...the dogs will be on him...I don't think she would shoot to protect herself...but she WILL shoot to protect her dogs....I can promise you that.

 

[Standing Wolf]

It beats her trying to hit a badguy with a phone book or broom.

It's a step in the right direction—and could, in fact, be a long enough step to save her life.

 

[FRIENDLY]

.22 IN .22 MAG CHAMBERS

I believe there is a company - I think it was called Sports Specialities that supplied chamber adapters so that you could use sub-caliber rounds in one chamber.I think they made them for .22 in .22magnum chambers.You put the .22lr into the adapter then put the adapter in the revolver cylinder and it would fire. them extract the whole assembly dump the fired rounds and if needed reload.

 

[R.W.Dale]

I nay be wrong but I believe you CAN shoot 22WRF in a 22m revolver for a little less blast than 22WMR

 

[steveracer]

I have done this with no ill effect.

I put .22 short in the taurus 941, just to see if it would work. Shot fine. not very accurate, but ok.
Then, .22LR in same gun. No problems. again, not accurate (enough) but ok. .22 mag worked perfect. This all in about ten minutes. It's .22, and rimfire, so what's the big deal. The guns aren't going to break, and the rounds will MAYBE hit the forcing cone at a slightly wrong angle, but it's not like this is .44 mag or anything. Worst case scenario you'll have to scrape some lead off the cone or end of the cylinder.

 

[scbair]

I've seen (and experienced) several split cartridge cases while firing LRs in a WMR chamber. Not good!!

I wasn't deliberately tempting fate; I purchased a used S&W K-framed .22 marked "22 LR." Some enterprising former owner had apparently had a 'smith ream the chambers to accept .22WMR! I discovered this the hard way . . .

 

[Master Blaster]

The cases will split and you will have one heck of a time extracting 9 split cases. If you really want to do this, make sure you have a brass rod and a rubber mallet handy at the range.

Firing both out of my super single six which has a dedicated .22 mag and .22lr cylinder I dont really notice any difference in blast or recoil, but it is a little louder.

The .22WMR also know as .22 mag. bullet is the same diameter as the .22lr. .224 inches. the .22lr bullet sits over the case mouth, its a heeled bullet. the .22 wmr sits inside the case mouth its a normal crimped bullet. that makes the .22 wmr cartridge larger in diameter than the .22lr. and thats why .22 lr cases split and weld themselves into the chamber.

 

[Jim Watson]

A friend of mine traded for a .22 Magnum Colt SA that either had not come with LR cylinder or it had gotten lost along the way. He found that he could make chamber adapters by cutting off the head of fired .22 Mags. The resulting tube would hold a LR and go in the Magnum chamber.
I have NOT tried it, but the price is right.

This outfit sells adapters, says they are for rifles and you'd have to buy three sets of three to load that Taurus, even if they would fit
http://www.mcace.com/adapters.htm

 

[bearmgc]

"Bottom line is if a person isn't willing to learn how to shoot then they have no business with one even if in a bad situation."

Easy for you to say...

As for disarming her...I doubt it...most badguys run away from an armed victim. Should she get a particularly determined one...the dogs will be on him...I don't think she would shoot to protect herself...but she WILL shoot to protect her dogs....I can promise you that.

I agree. If she isn't willing to learn, then she shouldn't be carrying a gun. To add, that in a threatening situation, if she chose to shoot, she could accidently hit a bystander or even herself. Reality, guns make noise and have some recoil, even a .22. You can dance around in a gunshop, trying desperately to find the perfect shooter for her, but until she gets over this misperception, and makes a decision to learn, you're wasting your time.

 

[oldtrooper]

How about a taser? Does not (usually) kill and when they do most likely there is a pre-existing health issue. Would be a good bedroom defense and will put the biggest burglar down but not dead. Not as good as a handgun or shotgun but better than nothing until she overcomes her fear of guns.

 

[orangeninja]

Taser is out. $1,000.00 and you get one, maybe two shots. There is a learning curve for tasers as well....just like a gun.

 

[461]

Good luck.

 

[pax]

I don't know of any double action revolvers available with both cylinders

There is at least one but it's not in production anymore. Manufactured back in the mid-80's, it's a Harrington & Richardson Model 649. Comes with both cylinders and holds 6 rounds of either caliber.

I've fired both long rifle & magnum out of it, and didn't find either offensive.

That said.

Alduro, I'm sorry for you, man -- but if she doesn't want to shoot, isn't interested in being shown your guns or learning anything about them, hates being dragged to the range, and isn't interested in any of the above even immediately after a scare like that, well, she won't use it in an emergency. You'd be better off to be thinking about better locks, more alarms, whatever. Handing her a gun isn't going to fix the problem.

pax

 

[orangeninja]

Alduro, I'm sorry for you, man -- but if she doesn't want to shoot, isn't interested in being shown your guns or learning anything about them, hates being dragged to the range, and isn't interested in any of the above even immediately after a scare like that, well, she won't use it in an emergency. You'd be better off to be thinking about better locks, more alarms, whatever. Handing her a gun isn't going to fix the problem.

pax

Well...I'm thinking better lighting...buying a handgun .22lr revolver and put it in a drawer to plink with when the urge hits and if she calls me at work hysterical, I can of course tell her where it's at incase of sudden change of heart.

Secondly I've got 2 dogs...one medium sized that bites everyone...even me sometimes...(don't ask, long story) and one REALLY big one...who is gentle as a kitten but puts up one heck of a show....personally I think she'd bite a stranger....lastly I know the citizens patrol guys around here and a couple of beat sergeants, I'll take 'em to lunch sometime.

Locks fail, alarms are annoying...but I may consider both. Did I mention I HATE alarms?

I did find out she WILL use mace.....so now I'm looking for a crop duster....

 

[tomkatz]

As for disarming her...I doubt it...most badguys run away from an armed victim. Should she get a particularly determined one...the dogs will be on him...I don't think she would shoot to protect herself...but she WILL shoot to protect her dogs....I can promise you that.

I finally got my wife to get into shooting when I showed her a story about a home invasion robbery in our area(Seattle) where they killed a womans dogs, then raped and beat her pretty bad.....my wife said she would do anything to save our dogs, so she became determined to learn to do what she hated.....SHOOT!!!!
She took a class with a female instructor, all the participants were female too, and it helped.....after awhile she started shooting with me, now she is good at it, not great, and she isn't into it as much as I am, but she shoots a glock 19 darn near as good as I do.
None of this may help, but I just wanted to let you know that I did feel that she would never be a shooter, and now I am amazed when I think of her progress....it was just a matter of getting past the intial fear, good luck......tom

 

[gunfan]

Thank God, (and Glock) that she's reasonably well protected.

Scott

 

[pax]

Alduro ~

Good post and it sounds as if you're being realistic about all this (from your first post I had my doubts!)

Pepper spray that she will carry & use if necessary is a more dependable defense than a firearm she won't have or use -- but as you say, if the gun is in a drawer & she knows it, she may change her mind at the critical moment. One may hope ...

tomkatz ~



pax