Can I use .22lr in a .22mag revolver?

[blackedoutharley]

I nay be wrong but I believe you CAN shoot 22WRF in a 22m revolver for a little less blast than 22WMR

Absolutely correct! I shoot 22 WRF in my Colt frontier Scout SA 22 MAG. I dont know about the price difference but I have a large amount of 22 WRF for my 1890 Winchester. Works good without the noise and "recoil".

 

[JMusic]

Pax, absolutely. Both my daughters one who shoots and one who won't will receive two canisters each. One Large to be kept in the house, one small to be on them at all times"I hope!". This reminds me of an English friend of mine that relocated in my area. He noticed the high rate of murders and shootings and had become alarmed. He asked me which "gun" he should get to protect his family. Now I know he had no expierence with firearms, has three children, and a wife that hates firearms. I advised that he get a large pepper canisters and locate them throuought the house and keep smaller ones in the car. We then went into a training program last year with airsoft guns to show the enjoyment of shooting along with the safety measures. His son now is hooked and he is following along. When the family is ready for a firearm now they can aquire one themselves. It must by an individual decision. If not it is only a door stop. Merry Xmas
Jim

 

[alchemist11]

22lr and 22 mag

People don't realze that to get the performance out of such a small case, the .22 rf is loaded to high pressures. They are way smaller than .22 mags and usually will split with a release of gases back toward the shooter. .22 WRF will fire in a .22 mag, but cripes the .22 mag is no big recoiler for gawds sake.. If she's afraid, then she should do something about it by practicing with a small caliber handgun. Sorry but a rifle can be too easily grabbed by an intruder and then it's all over for her. A .22 mag is devastating for self defence. If she wants to go .22rf then have her use .22 quick shocks that split into three separate pieces. I wouldn't want to be hit with them. Of course the taurus 941 is cheap enough to buy one in 22rf for cheap practice and one in .22 mag for self defence.

 

[Rpriestlyjr]

You can most definitely shoot .22 short, long and long rifle cartridges from a .22 WMR cylinder. The difference between a .22 LR and .22 WMR is about .001 of a inch, with the WMR being the larger. Therefore, The .22 S, L, LR will chamber and function in a .22 WMR cylinder and barrel with these issues: distinct loss of accuracy, possible extraction problems, and distorted cases.
I have a Single Six .22WMR / .22LR and found that some were made just for the .22LR with the correct barrel I.D.
So one cannot just put a .22 WMR cylinder into a .22 LR single Six and expect it to work (big bullet in a small hole syndrome).
Also, I have a High Standard Double Nine Convertible .22 WMR/LR that I just adore. Nine shot, double action, two cylinders, adjustable sights, 'Cowboy Style.' And accurate with the WMR. Sporadic with the LR.

 

[Carl N. Brown]

With .22 long rifle, a .22 diameter bullet has a reduced diameter tail
that fits inside a .22 OUTside diameter casing.

With .22 Magnum, a .22 diameter bullet fits inside a .22 INside diameter
casing.

Which is why a .22 longrifle cartridge will slide into a .22 magnum fired
case.

.22 Magnum was developed by Winchester from the .22 Winchester Rimfire
or .22 WRF made popular by the Browning-designed Winchester pump.
.22 WRF fired a 45 gr bullet at a respectable velocity, but the .22 LR hiVel
Hollowpoint edged it off the market.

.22 WRF can fire in the .22 Magnum chamber, but might not feed in some
rifles made for .22 magnum (.22 WRF in a Revolver or single shot is no
problem). Besides if I find WRF it costs more than Magnum.

.22 long rifle in a .22 magnum chamber is a undersized case or oversized
chamber situation: not good. Some folks get by with only swollen cases
and mediocre accuracy, others have bad gas leak and extraction
problems depending on the gun. My Savage 63M has a weak extraction
system with .22 magnum, so this is one question I will not test.

 

[JohnKSa]

Her only complaint was the Buckmark was too heavy.

My wife had the same complaint. I found her one with the lighter barrel profile and she loves it.

 

[roscoe]

You should get some of that Aquila 60-grain .22 subsonic ammo - it penetrates very well for a .22 long rifle round. Plus, it is much quieter. If I had to give a .22 pistol to my wife for defense, that would be the ammo I would choose.

 

[asknight]

Well...I'm thinking better lighting...buying a handgun .22lr revolver and put it in a drawer to plink with when the urge hits and if she calls me at work hysterical, I can of course tell her where it's at incase of sudden change of heart.

Secondly I've got 2 dogs...one medium sized that bites everyone...even me sometimes...(don't ask, long story) and one REALLY big one...who is gentle as a kitten but puts up one heck of a show....personally I think she'd bite a stranger....lastly I know the citizens patrol guys around here and a couple of beat sergeants, I'll take 'em to lunch sometime.

Locks fail, alarms are annoying...but I may consider both. Did I mention I HATE alarms?

I did find out she WILL use mace.....so now I'm looking for a crop duster....

Of course locks fail, alarms fail, and dogs will fail too. Dogs are not a good idea for last resort defense, and in my opinion they're not any more effective than an alarm. In my opinion, the best thing you could do for your ladylove is to purchase her a set of 5lb dumbells, or a gym membership and go there with her. Explain to her in as nicest way you can that you don't want her to be utterly defenseless, or don't explain your motives at all. Tell her it's for both of your's health. I may be a bit opinionated on this subject, as my lady shoots full-house .357's from her snubby without a wince... but I feel very strongly about every person being able to handle and use a defensive firearm. Meanwhile, if you're stuck with .22LR for defense, make it at least a 9 or 10 shot revolver and train her to not stop pulling the trigger until it quits firing, and thats with hyper velocity loads such as CCI Stinger, Velocitor, etc. Mace can't be relied on as a threat STOPPER, but can inhibit the threat momentarily. What does she do in the meantime after macing the bad guy? Leave the house and all of it's contents to him/her?

At the immediate time, if she feels that her first line of defense is to use the telephone when something happens, train her to call 911 first and then to call you and advise you of the situation. I admit that calling 911 isn't a likely way to stop something before it happens, but it has a higher probability of stopping a threat than calling you at work and never calling 911 at all, especially if you're away from your desk or work area and can't immediately get to the phone. 911 can most always get to the phone.

I didn't want to step on any toes, and I hope I didn't. Stay safe.

 

[gremlin_bros]

guess im forunate. my better half had an incident that happened and scared her just a bit. one day she says she is tired of living in fear will i teach her to shoot. no problem i ask her if she wants to learn on a revolver or auto she says auto. i dont have a 22 auto so i went to the valt and got two 9mm and a 45 and a few rounds of ammo and off to the range we went. after a safety briefing to whitch she listened verry intently and an explanation of the diffrences of each gun we were ready to begin.
i frist gave her a compact 9mm she liked it but the grip was to small, next came the beretta fit her hand better and she liket the feel of it just fine, last was my 1911 she loved the grips and after fireing off three rounds turned around looked at me (keeping the gun saftely pointed downrange or at the ground with the safety on)she had a grin from ear to ear her first words were i want one. later that day she was the proud owner of her own 1911 from a local gun store. like i said im a luckey guy.
her openion of a 22 is this note: she has been shot with a 22 in an accident befor i ever knew her. kinda gives her a unique perspective on the whole thing
she says a 22 isnt going to do anything but piss sombody off even more. and a 9mm = 45 acp set to stun. man i love this woman i married

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Decided to illustrate what we've been talking about, .22 lr v .22 Magnum:

*I am not convinced I want to use a .22 WMR casing as a sleeve to fire
.22 LR in a .22 Magnum as the sleeve could remain in the chamber
as a temporary cartridge conversion.

From a rifle, the hollowpoint versions of the .22 WMR (30-40-50gr) have
the civilian hp versions of the infamous FiveseveN Killer-Kartridge-from-
Hades-with-PMS beaten ballistically.

 

[pezo]

As for disarming her...I doubt it...most badguys run away from an armed victim. Should she get a particularly determined one...the dogs will be on him...I don't think she would shoot to protect herself...but she WILL shoot to protect her dogs....I can promise you that.
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I've seen crime documentries of women who shot and actually hit but not kill intruder and still had been disarmed and shot,killed with own weopan. ONe particular story was of a lady who had been raped at home, got up grabbed .357, shot suspect and hit his hand only. suspect took gun and shot lady point blank, killing her. Alway's teach to shoot untill threat is over.....period. and carry efffective defense ammo one can shoot accurately.

 

[epijunkie67]

Though it's a bit pricy might you consider the FN57? No, it's not a revolver but it's a very light weapon that has almost no recoil and it holds 20 rounds in the magazine. My GF hates recoil and I tried her on everything from .38spc in a full sized revolver to 9mm semi auto, even my .32. She hated the recoil in all of them and only liked plinking with my .22 buckmark.

We went to the range and she tried my FN57. After the first shot she said "That's really loud." (yes, we had on hearing protection) I asked her, "Yeah, but how's the recoil?" She put a few more rounds down range and said "Hey, this doesn't have any recoil at all. It's like shooting your little target pistol!"

Long story short it's become HER bedside gun since I work nights a lot. And I know a lot of people give me %$@# about this round but I darn sure wouldn't want to be hit with 20 rounds of 40 grain ballistic tipped ammo at 1600-1800 fps!

 

[Carl N. Brown]

20 rounds of 40 grain ballistic tipped ammo at 1600-1800 fps!

trumps nine or ten 40 grain at 1000 from a typical .22 handgun

Large gun, light bullet = low recoil, more control for the recoil sensitive.
This has convinced me there may be a niche market for the FiveseveN.

Has anyone tested this round against panel-sheetrock-airspace-sheetrock
for indoors protection, or do they all just lay a level I vest on a haybale?

 

[jshipma]

"She doesn't mind shooting a .22lr however"

If the buckmark is too heavy and she likes the idea of a semiauto, you might want to give the Walther P22 a try. The original P22's had magazine problems but that has since been resolved. I own a P22 with the 3.5in BBL and it will shoot anything I want. It has over 1500 rounds with no problems to speak of. Also nice is the fact that it has three backstraps which can tailor the grip to fit her hands better. If you are also into the whole "tactical" thing it also has a rail on the dustcover for a light or laser. The light has one added benefit if you are so inclined, with the light on in a dark house the perp won't see how small the barrel is and laugh...

IMHO it's a great gun for fun, and fits extremely well in a large variety of hands.