New Speer .22mag ammo for self defense
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richardKatts
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http://www.mouseguns.com/amball.htm
have at it.
well, some of these sites are NLA, sorry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6drpk5xwkP4
http://www.jesseshunting.com/articles/guns/category16/92.html
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CraigC
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pezo, I've been shooting the .22Mag for 25yrs. Many thousands of round sput downrange at indoor ranges. 99% of the time, no matter what other folks were shooting, the .22Mag was THE LOUDEST pistol on the firing line. Especially the old man's Automag II, which has a five inch longer barrel than what you're referring to. Dude, you probably couldn't pass a hearing test if your life depended on it.
MCgunner
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I have a 2" Black Widow and a 2" .38. I have never shot the .22 mag without hearing protection, have put down hogs in the trap with the .38 sans hearing protection. Have done that with .357 in a 3", too. I see from this that the .22 mag is about as loud as the .38 special, a little less, actually. According to my hearing attenuated (ear plugs) calibrated ears, I'd say that's about right. And, look at the lowly 9x19. You big macho .45 guys are telling me you're skirt of the 9?....
I'll be looking for the new Speer load for my NAA. I've about gotten tired of waiting on Hornady.
Besides, CCI .40 grain maximag shoots POA and is 100 percent in my NAA. The only Hornady I've tried is the .30 grain +V and it don't hit paper at 15 yards and is about 40 percent maypop in the gun, hard rims or something I guess.Anyway, I don't wear hearing protection when I hunt or in everyday life when a BG would attack me. My ears'll be safe if I get attacked at the range, i guess. THE LOUDEST I've ever had a gun HURT me was my Contender when I first hunted with the 12" .30-30 barrel on it. In the open it ain't bad, but you'd better take along the muffs if you're hunting in a box blind.....duh.
I'm okay, I can hear...fortunately. I've passed hearing tests since, but I don't recommend hunting in a box blind with a .30-30 pistol with a built in compensator, no less.RugerMcMarlin
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Oh you said speer load for NAA, I thought you said Speed loader!
22 mag is brisk, It is no comp for a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine,
indoors or out.
Its so loud it'll make your grandkids stutter.
Why, one time I shot it in my pick-up, and all the dirt fell out of my headliner, took a week.
22 mag is brisk, It is no comp for a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine,
indoors or out.Its so loud it'll make your grandkids stutter.
Why, one time I shot it in my pick-up, and all the dirt fell out of my headliner, took a week.
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I use the 22mag lots around the back 40. It does have a very loud bark but I carry the first two up with snake shot and the others have enough to drop a dog or coyote up close. I don't wear ear protection roaming on my property and in my single six it works well for me. My wife wants all snakes killed and the 22mag shot seems to work well for her also. As for hearing we never used anything 60yrs ago and I do have the guaranteed hearing problems.
41magsnub
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If I am translating this correctly.... you do have hearing problems now due to a lifetime of shooting without hearing protection?
I have a NAA 22 mag with the 1 5/8 barrel. Shot it in an indoor range between two partitions and I thought I blew up. I felt the blast blow my hair back (had more hair then) and felt the wave go under my glasses.
Scared the crap out of me. Also, wonderful fireball.
Never got that from other guns in the same situation.
Scared the crap out of me. Also, wonderful fireball.
Never got that from other guns in the same situation.
Hoppes Love Potion
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.22 Mag out of the little NAA revolvers is quite a show.
MCgunner
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I stopped to check on Academy today. They don't offer gold dot ammo. Guess it'll have to wait'll next week when I have time, try the LGSs.
BCRider
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Somewhere along the way you should get some .38Spl 148gn wadcutter target ammo and let her try it out of a J or K frame revolver. It's pretty soft in the recoil department but it's quite likely that it's a more effective round than the .22WMR in many ways. And in a K frame gun the recoil should be nicely soft.
The issue that I see in your posts is that you keep planning on starting her with some soft recoil ammo for practice then bump up her carry loads to stuff that'll scare her socks off when it comes down to any possible crunch. As you said, the first rule of gunfighting is to bring a gun. The .38Spl wadcutter target loads may not pack the wallop of the full power rounds. But the potential for the heavier bullet hitting and doing more damage is there despite the low muzzle velocity.
The issue that I see in your posts is that you keep planning on starting her with some soft recoil ammo for practice then bump up her carry loads to stuff that'll scare her socks off when it comes down to any possible crunch. As you said, the first rule of gunfighting is to bring a gun. The .38Spl wadcutter target loads may not pack the wallop of the full power rounds. But the potential for the heavier bullet hitting and doing more damage is there despite the low muzzle velocity.
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try a 9mm full size, a mid size 380 (e.g. bersa thunder, walther pk380, beretta 94), a 38spl full size (gp100, 686, etc), or a 32 snub.
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I got a SW 386 NG revolver for my wife since she likes "black revolvers with black grips". Anyway, it has great sights, good full-size grip and enough weight at ~25oz that it is fine for her recoil wise with 135g +P 38SPL Gold Dots. With 130g FMJ .38SPLs it is extremely tame. I see no reason to run .357s in it ever.
She has some trouble with trigger reach and the DA pull weight, I think I'll try switching the grips to a Hogue model that doesn't cover the backstrap, that will give her about 1/4" more reach.
She has some trouble with trigger reach and the DA pull weight, I think I'll try switching the grips to a Hogue model that doesn't cover the backstrap, that will give her about 1/4" more reach.
Fishslayer
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.22 Mag is freakin' loud. I speak from experience. Maybe you've just been shooting indoors too long without ear pro?
As for protection...
6 x .22 on target > 1 .44 Mag in the floor.
That .22 micro revolver is bad*$$!
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I'm with pezo and Ole Coot on .22 Mag noise levels. Been shooting them since High Standard came out with its derringer in the Sixties, and have owned most non-junk brands ever made.
Most folks buy into the gun forums' "too loud" stories because they see the stories repeated all the time; so they must be true: "Hell, my Uncle Judd who shoots .44 Mags at the range almost went deaf because a guy in the next booth shot off a .22 Mag!"
Even the above-posted decibel chart shows that .38 Specials are louder, but no one at the range complains, and no one on the forums ever said "Hey, them ole .38 suckers sure are loud." Why is that?
Here's why: People confuse a loud report with a sharp report, and that supersonic .22 WMR out of a tiny little weapon like a S&W 351 is unpleasantly sharp. That surprises people who were expecting only something like the crack of a .22 LR Stinger.
Most people think a WMR round is just a souped up .22 LR rather than a kissen cousin of a standard .38, so when they hear a WMR with no hearing protection, feel the b/c gap blast and see flame spit out of a little rimfire handgun, what's the natural reaction? It's, "Holy Shiite, that's a loud SOB!" And in a sense, they're not all wrong.
For one or two finishing or plinking shots in an open field with a .22 Mag, I don't feel the need for hearing protection, just like with a 12 gage shotgun. Of course, YMMV so by all means play it smart and wear protection if you want to.
Most folks buy into the gun forums' "too loud" stories because they see the stories repeated all the time; so they must be true: "Hell, my Uncle Judd who shoots .44 Mags at the range almost went deaf because a guy in the next booth shot off a .22 Mag!"
Even the above-posted decibel chart shows that .38 Specials are louder, but no one at the range complains, and no one on the forums ever said "Hey, them ole .38 suckers sure are loud." Why is that?
Here's why: People confuse a loud report with a sharp report, and that supersonic .22 WMR out of a tiny little weapon like a S&W 351 is unpleasantly sharp.
That surprises people who were expecting only something like the crack of a .22 LR Stinger. Most people think a WMR round is just a souped up .22 LR rather than a kissen cousin of a standard .38, so when they hear a WMR with no hearing protection, feel the b/c gap blast and see flame spit out of a little rimfire handgun, what's the natural reaction? It's, "Holy Shiite, that's a loud SOB!" And in a sense, they're not all wrong.
For one or two finishing or plinking shots in an open field with a .22 Mag, I don't feel the need for hearing protection, just like with a 12 gage shotgun. Of course, YMMV so by all means play it smart and wear protection if you want to.
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