Can someone tell me if this is a good deal?

[vis-à-vis]

My dorm neighbor owns a Glock 19 and uses it for his ccw. I have not seen it yet, I will on Friday when we go to shoot. From what I gather, it's basically new, has trijicon sites, and a 3lb trigger. It will come with 2 15 rd. clips and I am assuming the holster. He is offering it to me for $400 which I can split into 2-3 payments if I want.

I personally like the XD-9 better due to it's comfortable handle, but the Glock isn't so bad either. From what I have found, I can basically buy an XD-9 for about the same price.

I currently only own rifles and shotguns, a little .22 target pistol and a WWII Nazi pistol which needs fixin'. I've never bought my own gun before and need could use some advice from veteran gun owners and shooters.

I'd like to get my KY CCW as well, so any advice on the weapon as a concealed carry would be nice.

 

[loki.fish]

I'm not sure how close Louisville is to Paris, KY, but you can get a brand new XD-9 for less than $100 more from them at Bud's Gun Shop. Get what you want. I'd see if he'll let you shoot the Glock when you go shooting and see how you like it. With Glocks, it's either love them or hate them. I've shot both a Glock and an XD, and to me, the XD was more comfortable in my hands. If you can, go to a local gun shop and hold an XD and see what you think, cuz to me, it sounds like you'd rather have an XD.

Here's a link to Buds Gun Shop so you can see for yourself what prices are on whichever you want. If you're thinking concealed, I'd suggest the sub-compact since it's only 3" barrel. My buddy has one in .40S&W and loves it.

 

[vis-à-vis]

Good advice (i bookmarked that gun shop), but is the deal presented before me a good one? He says it shoots fine and will allow me to shoot it as I dont have any guns with me down here. I also do not mind the Glock's handle.

 

[Finch]

A quick look on Gunbroker shows that you are right on par with what you could get there, but take out transfers and shipping and you're getting off better. In my opinion it's a good deal and should you choose the Glock over the XD, it would be a fine purchase.

Magazines - not clips...

 

[vis-à-vis]

A quick look on Gunbroker shows that you are right on par with what you could get there, but take out transfers and shipping and you're getting off better. In my opinion it's a good deal and should you choose the Glock over the XD, it would be a fine purchase.

That's what I am thinking too.

Magazines - not clips...

Always heard them used interchangebly, no?

 

[possum]

I think what he is offering is a good deal, but however I am an xd guy and don't much care for glocks. they just don't fit me like my ole xd does. do shoot it and not just a box or two but a couple hundread rds. it would be much better to find out before you buy it if you are gonna like it. you might like it when you first shoot it, because it is new and exciting, but if you aren't gonna like it it is best to find out before hand! good luck and let us know what you decide!

 

[Falconeer]

A minor aside; a 3lb trigger sounds light for a carry piece, no?

 

[The Undertoad]

Agree w/Falconer...if truly 3lb, that's not a stock trigger. Find out specifics on that. IMHO that's too light for a carry gun with no external safety.

The price is good though, if you like the gun, go for it.

 

[JDGray]

Good deal, but see if he has the original parts for the trigger.

 

[TX1911fan]

No, magazine and clip are not interchangeable.

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(firearm):

A magazine (also called a mag or, commonly but incorrectly, a clip) is an ammunition storage and feeding device within or attached to a firearm. Magazines may be integral to the firearm (fixed) or removable (detachable).

The cartridges in the magazine are loaded into the firearm either automatically or manually depending on the type of gun, but almost always by a spring. Some magazines can in turn be loaded by a clip; contrary to the common misconception, clip and magazine are not synonymous terms. An example of this misuse is the use of the term banana clips to refer to curved box magazines. Although this particular phrase is more commonly used, the proper term would be banana magazine. The belt of linked ammunition used by most machine guns is also not a magazine.

The most common type of magazine is the detachable "box" type (pictured at right). However, other types are available, such as the drum magazine, sometimes used with the Thompson submachine gun, the "pan" magazine of the Russian DP-28 machine gun, and the fixed "tube" magazine found on many lever-action rifles and pump-action shotguns.

Magazines for a particular firearm may come in different shapes and sizes. Certain magazines can be readily identified by their appearance, such as those of the AK-type assault rifles, while with others it can be more difficult to tell what gun they belong to, such as when comparing the Ruger Mini-14's magazines with AR-15/M16 magazines.

And a clip http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stripper_clip:

A clip is a device that is used to store multiple rounds of ammunition together as a unit, ready for loading directly into the magazine of a repeating firearm. This speeds up the process of loading the firearm as several rounds can be loaded at once, rather than one round being loaded at a time. Several different types of clips exist, most of which are made of inexpensive metal stampings that are designed to be disposable, though they are often re-used.

 

[vis-à-vis]

Agree w/Falconer...if truly 3lb, that's not a stock trigger. Find out specifics on that. IMHO that's too light for a carry gun with no external safety.

The price is good though, if you like the gun, go for it.

Why might the 3lb be a hinderance? Will it be more prone to accidental discharge? I was taught never to put my finger on the trigger till I am about to fire but always leave it on the slide.

I'll probably be able to tell the difference when I shoot it, but I can't imagine what it would be. Is that considered a "hair-trigger"?

BTW, thanks for defining clip and magazine for me. I shall now blow some minds.

 

[TX1911fan]

THe only problem I see with a light trigger pull is the plaintiff's attorney in your civil suit claiming you had a hair trigger so you were just itching to shoot someone. Of course, that makes no sense to gunnies because we know you don't put your finger on the trigger till you're ready to fire, so a hair trigger means nothing (and in fact, should even be a point in your favor, when you explain that it makes you a better shot, so you had less chance of hitting an innocent bystander). However, the jury will likely remember all the CSI episodes when hair triggers and mods to guns were discussed, and how evil the resulting guns are.

 

[vis-à-vis]

if there is a plaintiff...

 

[Helstrm]

Most people shy away from light triggers because in a self defence situation tension is high and although we would all say that we don't put our fingers on the trigger until we are ready to shoot who knows what you might do when the time comes. I carry a custom 1911 with a 2.5lb trigger but it is setup as a 2 stage trigger. That way if my finger is on the trigger it can't go off until I pull it into possition, but at the range I can pull to the first stage, line up my sights and then stage 2 does not throw my aim off. Just be careful with the glock as I know a LEO that shot himself in the leg, another one that forgot to check the chamber and shot his hand when he was field stripping, and another guy who killed a 36" TV with his glock.

Checking the chamber 30 minutes ago does not mean it is safe. ALways check the chamber anytime you pickup your firearm no matter how sure you are that it is clear.

 

[ETXhiker]

I'd be less concerned with the weight of the trigger pull than how it got that way. All gunsmiths are not created equal. Hopefully a professional did it, not just some guy changing some springs, or doing his "special mods". (Gee, the trigger feels great, but it doesn't go bang anymore...)

 

[TX1911fan]

After a shooting, there will always be a plaintiff. Either the bad guy, if he survives, or his family if he doesn't

 

[Mr. Cuts]

I'm not sure how you get a 3lb trigger pull but I have a glock factory 3.5lb connector in my glock 19 and I like it a lot. I wonder if he has the same thing and is just calling it "3lb"?

That glock is one of my two primary carry guns and I dont feel it is a liability to have my trigger modified for two reasons: 1. It is a factory part and not a home gunsmithing job and 2. It does make me shoot better.

 

[vis-à-vis]

I'm not sure how you get a 3lb trigger pull but I have a glock factory 3.5lb connector in my glock 19 and I like it a lot. I wonder if he has the same thing and is just calling it "3lb"?

Probably.

So I think I am going to buy it. What are my responsibilities? Do I need to go through an FFL if I am buying from a friend who is my neighbor, do I need a background check, etc?

 

[BozemanMT]

It's a fair deal
it's not a killer deal, but ti's fair if the gun is in decent shape.
i'd go for it.

re: gun laws, check your state laws, it's a private sale of a handgun
and of course you can't be a prohibited posessor.

 

[brett30030]

Back to the SUBJECT of your post... Blue Book of Gun Values has a 95% gun valued at $395. That means that the gun needs to be barely shot with little or no visible wear. Only you can decide that . Of course, if he is willing to finance at no charge, and you are a cash poor student, it changes the dynamics of the deal. On the other hand, if you have to finance $400, how are you going to pay for $10 range fee and $10-20 in ammo per outing (just something to consider). Good Luck with your purchase.

If this is your first HG purchase, you may want to look at a .22 to get the started (it is not as gangster as a Glock, but only those that "think" they gangster are going laugh at you).

 

[pablo45]

Go for it that is a great deal especially with night sites. Glock 19's are excellent for ccw and over all shooting.

 

[MICHAEL T]

Go to buds and get the Springer or come to Harrodsburg I think a XD or 2 in showcase. Little more but be new. Big show fair grounds this weekend will be some deals their also

 

[jlh26oo]

completely unfounded in reason or logic:

But I'd not have a problem carrying the lighter trigger, if it came from the factory like that. For some weird reason, I would want the original trigger in a used 19 for some reason, although it's probably (rather definitely except in my head) exactly the same. The fact that it has the 3.5# connector is not a huge deal. I like it.

And the deal is a good one if the ns's are fresh, moreso if the holster's a good one.

That said, as much as I am pro-glock, and anti-XD <sips kool-aid>, if the xd fits better/feels better/looks better/shoots better for you, skip the savings and go with the XD. Don't let payments-same-as-cash from a buddy be a huge factor. $100 seems like a big savings now, but compared to even %10 +/- happiness a year or two down the road vs another (even inferior ) platform, the extra cash will seem meaningless.

But you are looking at probably the perfect glock to get if you were to just get one. Set up quite nicely, at a good price. GO (for it)[/tom cruise]

 

[Majic]

The price means absolutely nothing untill you have actually evaluated the condition of the handgun.

 

[vis-à-vis]

I bought the gun today. It's in pristine shape, got two nice cc holsters, one belt and one inside the pants, two mags, the original trigger thing (which he had professionally installed), the original clip release (also pro-install), trijicon nightsights, ammo, a cleaning kit, and a case.

400$