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Gary Mauser from the 'Pro' side

http://www.garymauser.net/papers.html

Gary is a professor who has worked hard researching the facts.

Contrast his presentation, at the link above, to the rhetoric from the the new Conservative Government of Canada :

Let me begin, Mr . President, by extending, on behalf of the Canadian delegation, our warm congratulations on your election as President of this Review Conference.

Mr. President, Excellencies, Ladies and Gentlemen,

We are brought together on this landmark occasion by tragedy aid by-hope .
Tragedy, because in excess of three hundred апd fifty thousand people each
year fall victim to the misuse of small arms and light weapons ; an average of
1,000 every day .

Hope, because we are well placed, both during and following this Conference, to advance significantly the implementation of the Programme of Action, to Prevent, Combat and Eradicate the Illicit Trade in Small Arms and Light Weapons in All Its Aspects.

1 take this opportunity to highlight specific measures that Canada regards as
priorities, measures which we pledge to pursue energetically in cooperation with other nations and civil society .

Mr. President, we must continue to strengthen the global regulatory framework governing small arms transfers in order to combat the illicit flow of small arms and light weapons, while at the same time, respecting the legitimate interests of lawful firearms producers, exporters, retailers and owners .

In this regard, Canada welcomes the imminent esta~ ishment of the Group of
Governmental Experts on brokering, and hopes that the work of the Group can get underway as soon as possible .

Canada supports the development of global principles that will guide the transfer of small arms and light weapons throughout their active life .

Canada is also supportive, in principle, of a comprehensive, legally binding Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) that would cover all conventional arms, which prevents the illicit flow of arms to conflict zones .

We commend the excellent work to date of civil society and the government of the United Kingdom on the ATT initiative, and pledge to work closely with all involved to advance the early development and adoption of this important instrument .

Mr. President, we must reduce the misuse of small arms and light weapons by civilians, as civilians possess more than 60% of the world's 600 million or more small arms . Most are used responsib y for hunting or target shooting . Others are used for illicit purposes .

Tremendous gains can be made by States through simple measures such as the implementation of a licensing regime that esta~ishes clear criteria for the lawful ownership aid use of firearms . These c~teria should include establishing a reasonable minimum age so as to keep guns out of the hands of children, ensuring that prospective owners and users are screened for a history of violence or criminal activity and ensuring as well, that each individual possesses a basic knowledge of firearms safety .

Each State must also ensue the appropпate use of small arms and light
weapons by state officials and secu~ty agents . In this regard, Canada urges the esta~ishment and enforcement of standards for the issue and use of firearms by police and state security officials and agents that reflect the United Nations Basic Principles on the Use of Force and Firearms by Law Enforcement officials .

We must ensure that essential stocks of small arms and light weapons remain secure and that surplus stocks are safely disposed of . To this end, Canada would welcome the further sha~ng of information on >best practices= in this and related areas апд the provision of technical and financial assistance where required.

In addition to matters related to the `supply' of small arms and light weapons, it is important to identify factors that lead to the demand for such weapons for illicit purposes. It is equally important to support initiatives that will effectively address the demand for small arms within the broader national and international .political, social, economic, and cultural contexts .

Since young men continue to be the main perpetrators and victims of gun
violence, our analysis should include gender considerations.
It is also critically important that we meet the physical and psychological needs of the survivors of armed violence, and ensure that they are reintegrated into their societies as full, productive members.

Where appropпate, small arms and light weapons programming should be
mainstreamed into the national development plans and strategies of developing countries and the intemational development community, including the World Bank, Regional Development Banks, relevant UN agencies, Official Development Assistance agencies and development NGOs .

But none of this will occur, Mr . President, if we do not accord small arms and
light weapons issues the time and attention they warrant .

Participants may recall that during the Preparatory Committee Meeting in
January, Canada submitted a Working Paper proposing adoption at this Review Conference of an Intersessional Program of Work that would bring us together informally on a semi-annual basis to generate ideas for consideration of States during subsequent formal meetings . As such they would be complementary to formal meetings of States .

Among other things, this would afford greater opportunity for focussed, results oriented work on various thematic priorities and to develop and implement a strategy to raise the resources required to fully implement the Programme of Action.

Canada has submitted for the consideration of this Conference, a new working
paper that further elaborates this proposal .
Mr. President, ladies and gentlemen, the Programme of Action adopted in 2001
is a valuable framework agreement . Let us use it and our collective experience
over the past five years to guide our deliberations in order that the work we
undertake during this Conference and in years to come fulfils the promise of the
Programme of Action.
Thank you .

TIZ

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Sounds "confused" to me. But, he is a politico, so talking out of both sides of his arse, eh er a mouth, may come naturally.

Also, where does the 350,000 people killed each year number that the libs keep quoting come from? I'm sure it's homicides, wars, suicides, accidents, police actions, etc., but can anyone actually provide a link to the source.

Considering that the U.S. lost 408,000 or so from 1941 - 1945 in WWII, and 58,000 from 1957 - 1975 in Vietnam, those numbers seem a bit high - even accounting for world-wide #s with minor wars (compared to war 2) around the globe.
 
No question for me, very "anti", very UK/Candian/Austrailian sounding.

1. A group of "Government Experts" is frightening to me, and rife with the potential for abuse.

2. Re: Civilians it seems that they break the group down into the hunters/target shooters and "illicit purposes". Guess which category personal protection comes in?

3. The implementation of a "Licensing Regime". The very name invokes fascism. I won't get into licensing for the obvious reasons.

4. They want to destroy surplus guns.

5.
Since young men continue to be the main perpetrators and victims of gun violence, our analysis should include gender considerations.
It is also critically important that we meet the physical and psychological needs of the survivors of armed violence, and ensure that they are reintegrated into their societies as full, productive members.
I'm pretty sure a social worker wrote this.

How many of these victims will want to take personal responsibility for their own protection? I think I have an answer to the "surplus firearms" issue above. :D

-James
 
Tremendous gains can be made by States through simple measures such as the implementation of a licensing regime that esta~ishes clear criteria for the lawful ownership aid use of firearms . These c~teria should include establishing a reasonable minimum age so as to keep guns out of the hands of children, ensuring that prospective owners and users are screened for a history of violence or criminal activity and ensuring as well, that each individual possesses a basic knowledge of firearms safety .

Rights? You don' need no stinkin' rights! We'll tell you what you are allowed, permitted, and licensed to do. And if we change our minds, we'll withdraw your permission slip...uhhh I meant "license". So there! Peasant!

Who do you think you are anyway? A free citizen of a Republic? Ha!

:cuss:
 
ChavezMugabe.jpg

Let's do something mad, Hugo... Something just for us...! Let's disarm all our citizens and then brutalize them!
Oh Bobby, I love it when you talk tough! Kiss me you despotic fool!
 
TIZReporter

I tried to read the text you posted, but I just kept remembering the
treatment I received at the hands of the Canadian customs people
the first time I went into Canada, I just got too angry to read it
all. Sorry about that.

My opinion about Canada is simple. When we bring all our troops home from
Iraq, (and we will), we should line them up on the Canadian border and
invite Canada to become the 51st state, or not.
If they choose "or not", then we should invade Canada, claim it, and
annex it as our 51st state. I mean, how hard can it be? They don't
allow their citizens to own guns, so who's going to stop us?

Just my 2 cents, and I don't really mean to start trouble, but I
do despise the government of Canada!!!

Walter
 
Canada needs a national add campaign...

Your best duty as a Canadian citizen is to turn in your firearms. Save your children today, the UN will protect you tomorrow. Ask your neghbor Americans to turn in their guns so the UN can protect them, too.
 
I agree, a threat of armed invasion might just be enough to spur armed citizen militias.

So is this Mauser guy pro or anti? The speech wasn't very pro, the way I read it???

"I mean, how hard can it be?"
Logistically, +- >impossible. You can't control Iraq, and that's warm, flat, dry, and small. :)

On the other hand, it would be pretty sweet if we could start over with the founding father's constitution, minus the 18th amendment. That would rock.
 
Walter wrote......... "They don't
allow their citizens to own guns, so who's going to stop us?"


100% wrong !! We have licencing and registration but that comment is wrong. I have a Les Baer 1911 S.R.P. / Glock 17 / Colt LE6920 carbine . Here is a forum for you............ www.canadiangunnutz.com
 
Their official line is not all that different from what we were saying at the UN the other day. Diplomats have to say one thing, and often try to accomplish another behind closed doors.
Still, there is a thread in this speech that is disturbing, or should be, to ever Canadian and American Citizen, and thats the business of NO GUARANTEE for firearms ownership, in any of this UN crap. Like the picture of Hugo showed, the security of a people against a despotic government hinges on only two things. The first is an armed population, and the other is the 'Kindness of despots'.
There is a constant, and unrelenting attack at home on the Second Amendment, and Canada only has a hit of a promise for continued gun ownership. Most of the world already has zip, zero, nada.
One only has to look at East Timor, Rawanda, Ivory Coast, Haiti, Cuba, Communist China or North Korea, to see that virtually the entire world already lives either in chaos, or under the thumb of a despot.
This proposed UN action would accomplish nothing, other than to disarm the rest of the world, and leave us all open to terror.
 
Lucky said:
So is this Mauser guy pro or anti? The speech wasn't very pro, the way I read it???

The speach you read wasn't Mauser. TIZReporter's post was a little puzzling to me, too, at first. To see what Mauser said to the UN, read this.
 
Good posts, Mannlicher and Baz.

The UN is discussing civilian gun bans, especially aimed at the US, on the 4th of July. And their reconstituted Human Rights bunch is merely serving up the same old anti-Israeli garbage. President Bush, get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.
 
NRA was not at the meeting making a speech from what I can find.

Possibly. The NRA has not been very good from day 1 of informing its
membership about this movement at the global level until over the last
few years. I find mention of the NRA on Day 2 of the conference on the ILA
site only to the extent that:

There was a strong NRA presence with Executive Vice-President Wayne LaPierre, NRA-ILA Executive Director Chris Cox and NRA President Sandra Froman listening to the U.S. deliver its positions.

"listening"?

Furthermore:

Annan even made a veiled reference to the NRA when he departed from his prepared text, turned to the President of the Conference, and said words to the effect he wanted to "...repeat this for those who don't understand or refuse to understand..." This was probably in response to the very effective NRA campaign to publicize the Conference.

Not to mention some Aussies, GOA and various other State level groups who
were more "effective" about the problem to American gunowners years before
the NRA even began publicizing anything about it to their membership. GSL
once had a website that had more information about it as early as 1997
before any other of the other gun groups http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b531c4d385c.htm ,
but I don't see any of their UN pages anymore on their website.
 
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