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Caracal F & C: Pics

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by GunNut, Mar 20, 2012.

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  1. GunNut

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    In the last month I have purchased both a Carcal F and C, had the F for 3 weeks and enjoyed it so much had to have the C too. Finally got out to shoot the C today and I will have to say I love this gun, shoots great and has minimal recoil.

    Most of the issues that I read about the Caracal line of guns has more to do with politics than actual issues with the guns. Don't have any intention of getting involved with the political issues just want to enjoy a great gun.

    So who else has them and what do you think?

    Here are some pictures of mine:D


    Caracal F & C:

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  2. KC.45

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    I watched the Miltary Arms Channel review on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnpprZgirKs) and was intrigued by these pistols. I have been keeping an eye out at local gun shows just to hold one but have yet to see one. Glad to see you enjoy them.
     
  3. GunNut

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    Not a lot of them out there right now, but I'm definitely loving them.

    Love them so much I am seriously thinking about shooting them exclusively for the next few months.
     
  4. Girodin

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    As a huge fan of the Steyr m series of pistols I've been interested in the Caracal since I first saw them.
     
  5. PabloJ

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    The two samples I examined at looked and felt like world-class weapons. I'm holding out for Arsenal Arms 'Strike One' scheduled for release in September 2012.
     
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    Yes--very interesting pistols. I hope they get a fair shake in the US market.

    +1 on the Arsenal Arms pistol. Amazing how one company can offer something so absolutely ridiculous (double barrel 1911) yet offer something with so much promise. I am especially curious to see how their unique barrel link up works out.
     
  7. Fastcast

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    One of the only polymer pistols that actually intrigues me (aesthetics wise) as something more than just another butt ugly tool. Keep us informed on their reliability in the months to come.
     
  8. GunNut

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    Will do.
     
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    I've been contemplating one of these Caracals as well. The low bore axis is the main thing that intrigues me - plus just variety in general is nice. It would suck if the world was filled with nothing but Glocks, M&P's, and XD's :).

    I must say though that the Strike One that was mentioned here is intriguing me greatly too. It seems to have an even lower bore axis, and these guys seem to be heavily targetting the IPSC market. Integrated magazine "skirt", looks like it has a 5" barrel, and comes with the option for an aluminum frame (aluminum is a bit heavier than polymer so that should soak up some more recoil). Pretty sure that the aluminum framed version would be able to pull in more import points than polymer as well (I know that Glock has to actually add in things that they take back off just to make enough points for import).

    I also like the truly ambi mag release on that gun (many these days are reversible, but few seem to be ambi).

    Its the first mention I've heard of it, but I'm kinda more excited about this than the Caracal now :).
     
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    I'd love it if anything 9mm and up or .22 and below were exempt from the point requirements.
     
  11. GunNut

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    Would make too much sense.

    I'd love to see a Caracal SC, which I think they can get enough points just by adding some adjustable sights.
     
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    I really want to check out that gun too!
     
  13. ExMachina

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    My Caracal C has yet to disappoint and only gets better. Normally not a polymer/striker handgun guy but this one hits the mark on every level: reliability, shoot-ability, portability, it all works

    Low bore axis, yes. But even better, the barrel is about a high in the slide as it can go and that means that the center of mass of the slide itself is also low. The result is that the gun is not "flippy" at all. Soft-shooting some people call it.

    Trigger is really nice too.

    I'm seriously considering adding an F to the collection now--might hold out to see if some of the Quick See confugurations ever show up
     
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    GunNut,

    Nice pistols.

    How do their "innards" compare to those of the Glock, XDs and HKs?

    Any chance we could get you to "pop the top" on one or both of 'em and give us a look at the underside of the slide and a look down into the frame so we can compare?
     
  15. NG VI

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    What's Quick See, a type of sight configuration?
     
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    There is a well-documented and detailed Caracal disassembly here

    A really a nice design improvement the Caracal has over the Glock is that the entire trigger assembly lifts out for servicing. Also fewer parts overall. I've heard that the Caracal armorer's course is shorter than Glock's.
     
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    Different type of sight system with a built in ramp in front of the ejection port.
     
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    They're essentially a fixed rear sight, milled into the slide ahead of the ejection port.

    Some pics and details here (along with a little David Hasselhoff)

    You can see a Caracal with the QS sights in action here.

    To date, they've been rare to no-existent in the US :(
     
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    If everyone thought that way we'd still be using match-lock muskets and having this conversation via hand delivered letters ;).

    Glocks are pretty decent guns. I own one and it doesn't give me any trouble, but realistically there are still plenty of improvements to be made. The Caracal itself does that in both an extra round of capacity in the F version and a lower bore axis. It also wasn't until the latest generation that Glocks got replaceable backstraps to correct their grip angle (mine is Gen 2 and though I can get used to it, picking up one of my other guns after shooting it immediately reminds me that the Glock angle is just WRONG ;)). They also don't have an ambidextrous mag release and the stock sights are terrible (not only plastic, but also too short).

    Overall, nobody is really going wrong by buying Glock, but don't fool yourself into thinking that there aren't improvements to be made (and that there aren't some brands that have already done so).
     
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    I've only held one of the F's so far, and it felt BIG. Maybe I have smaller hands than I thought.
     
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    No Caracals in my area as yet, sure would like to try one.
     
  22. GunNut

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    The grip is the same size as a Glock 17 with a barrel of a Glock 19.

    If you want to feel a big grip try out a full size XDm.
     
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    How does the C model correlate to the Glocks? Looks to be similar to the 19, but with a hair longer grip.
     
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    Same or slightly shorter grip with a slight shorter slide length/barrel. Overall length is the same because the C has a longer slide to the rear.

    The C fits my hands better than the Glock 19Gen4 that I have.
     
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    Have you seen how many companies make mouse traps and different traps they make?
     
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