Carry your own reloads in your CCW?

[GEM]

You can get quality SD ammo for $1.16 a round. That stinks but it's out there.

 

[labnoti]

The crime lab will likely test rounds like the ones they believe you were carrying. ....

All I will have to do is show that they don't know what to believe.

 

[Kleanbore]

In the area of urban legends, I heard the main rule against hand loads was some fancy attorney would accuse you of undo pain and anguish by using hand loads

You heard wrong.

 

[Kleanbore]

All I will have to do is show that they don't know what to believe

That's ridiculous.

 

[Kleanbore]

I .am surprised that this question has not ever come before a court of law and we don't have a more precise answer.

The questions that established the current rules for the admissibility of scientific trace evidence have come up in courts of law on multiple occasions.

The Federal rules are the result of at least two SCOTUS rulings in Daubert v Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals. Some states use somewhat different rules. but the principles are the same.

The rules are very well established.

Don't look for "handloads". The same rules apply to the admissibility of expert testimony RE: explosive testing, fingerprints, computer-generated records, toxicity testing, pharmaceuticals, and a host of other things

We've been over this in great depth over the years.

 

[Kleanbore]

have been visiting reloading forums since 2006 and this subject rears its stupid head on a regular basis, and there is never a consensus reached (not even close).

That there continue to be those who cannot understand, and/or do not accept, the underlying legal issues does not tell us that there is informed disagreement on the subject.

I still wait for a specific case (cite a case with names, file numbers, etc.) where handloads were the reason for prosecuting a shooter. Not the reason for the shooting, not for the actions taken by the shooter and not the "mindset" of the participants...

Handloads will never be the reason for prosecution.

But they may deny a defendant the right to have admitted what could be valuable exculpatory evidence.

Both of those points are set forth quite clearly in our sticky thread.

You apparent failure to understand those points indicates either that you have missed some important things here since 2006; or that you cannot understand the subject matter, or that you are simply choosing to be argumentative--or all three.

 

[Frank Ettin]

This thread has followed the usual course for these sorts of discussions -- down the rabbit hole.

People will believe what they want to believe. If anyone wants to carry his handloads for self defense, no one is stopping him. It won't be my problem.

But if someone is on the fence, he might want to reflect on the fact that in all these discussions I can't recall any lawyer participating who said he chose to carry handloads for self defense.