Full Metal Jacket
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are you planning on being robbed at your wedding? 
congrats, by the way!
congrats, by the way!
carrying, during a wedding?
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Vector,
Let's reverse the question and ask how is a wedding any different than anywhere else you might carry if you carry all the time. It's just another venue/location and since violence isn't any more predictable for places it won't take place, it follows that chances are that deadly violence at weddings, while remote, are still possible places violence could take place.
Our friend is in Knoxville, where I am, and Knoxville has already experienced a mad man who wasn't part of the congregation coming into a church during children's performance and opening fire, proof that no where is completely safe all the time.
Let's reverse the question and ask how is a wedding any different than anywhere else you might carry if you carry all the time. It's just another venue/location and since violence isn't any more predictable for places it won't take place, it follows that chances are that deadly violence at weddings, while remote, are still possible places violence could take place.
Our friend is in Knoxville, where I am, and Knoxville has already experienced a mad man who wasn't part of the congregation coming into a church during children's performance and opening fire, proof that no where is completely safe all the time.
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NavyLCDR
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I would have, but I was in full dress dinner white uniform and my wedding was at the base chapel. I open carried during my honeymoon though.... well, when I had clothes on!
TexasRifleman
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Vector said:
How do you know when you NEED to carry?
Do you know when you will NEED fire insurance?
No, you never know when you will need insurance so you keep it all the time, just in case. Once you make the decision to carry a firearm I can't really see any difference.
Weddings are targets in this economy, they know that a fairly large sum of money will be carried out by a Groom, usually "half in the bag" so why would you not carry. We stayed at the hotel we were married at, that's reason number two, I am in a strage place with a hefty sum of cash, and everyone who works there knows. If you ever were going to carry, that would be a good time and place to do it.
Hahaha! Nice quote, that show is great.
Because if BGs had any sense of morality they wouldn't be BGs, and because of that I very much doubt there is anything stopping them from doing the same things at a wedding. A wedding is not a safe and crime free zone, just like schools and post offices.
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I'm not gonna cut & paste the articles due to THR's new policy. If you're interested, below are links. Just because nothing has ever happened at weddings you've been to doesn't mean bad stuff doesn't happen. It's like churches. Plenty of shootings at churches too. You just don't hear about it too much. The evidence is there if you look for it.
One Killed, One Wounded at Wedding
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-wedding-reception-shooting,0,594986.story
Shooting Interrupts Wedding
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2010/08/29/15183476.html
AKElroy
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If your Father in law is holding a shotgun, I would say it's only fair.
jhallrv4
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"the only question I have left to answer is which gun is most fitting for the occasion?"
That's easy! A BBQ gun!
That's easy! A BBQ gun!
What a great idea, sounds like a fun wedding. But you know it is your big day and you have probably already put a huge amount of time and money into the planning, so why not get a good gunsmith in on this and surprise her with a new finish on that thing that matched her dress. I have been wanting to do a KG gunkote on a few parts of my LCP that have worn, but if you got one powdercoated white I am pretty sure the pictures alone would be worth the cost of the finish.
Carter
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I plan to carry at my wedding, under my suit jacket. Considering I bought my suit to fit properly with my IWB holster on it seems only proper...although I'm sure I'll have a different suit for that day...but lets not poke holes in my argument.
My gf loves the idea. My parents...don't need to know. Her family wouldn't care.
Just make sure you're not breaking any laws. And if you go to a reception else where and there is alcohol present leave the gun locked up somewhere.
My gf loves the idea. My parents...don't need to know. Her family wouldn't care.
Just make sure you're not breaking any laws. And if you go to a reception else where and there is alcohol present leave the gun locked up somewhere.
Well I was going to respond to one of the posts, but I see a few more with the same theme. So let me make a general reply.
I see the primary difference between a wedding and a trip to Wal Mart as stark. One is a total public venue loaded with total strangers. A wedding is typically held at a private venue with invited guests, most of whom will be family and friends. Can violence occur, sure. However the likelihood is very slim that you would need to use deadly force there, in comparison to public places loaded with total strangers.
For those of you who see the potential need to carry at weddings, what the heck do you do when you go to places like the beach? One place is private with family and friends, the other is public with total strangers. Assuming your risk assessment is properly tuned, you must feel the need to carry, but how do you do it responsibly at the beach? You cannot carry on you when you go into the water, and you can't leave it with your stuff either.
How do you rationalize the different scenarios?
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I see the primary difference between a wedding and a trip to Wal Mart as stark. One is a total public venue loaded with total strangers. A wedding is typically held at a private venue with invited guests, most of whom will be family and friends. Can violence occur, sure. However the likelihood is very slim that you would need to use deadly force there, in comparison to public places loaded with total strangers.
For those of you who see the potential need to carry at weddings, what the heck do you do when you go to places like the beach? One place is private with family and friends, the other is public with total strangers. Assuming your risk assessment is properly tuned, you must feel the need to carry, but how do you do it responsibly at the beach? You cannot carry on you when you go into the water, and you can't leave it with your stuff either.
How do you rationalize the different scenarios?
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Nail Shooter
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Yes I did. 357 mag J-frame in a pocket holster. Nobody knew except for my wife. Regards,
Nail
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The Scotish knife?
The knife is a dirk, a Sgian Dhubh, I have heard it sounded this way A Skin du.
When you wear a Kilt, the dirk is in the sock. Our family name on my Mothers side is Kelly, affiliated with the McDonald's.
Most now use a plastic replica, I use a real one, double edged when I wear the kilt, only done twice.
The last one I had the dirk in the sock, the Glock 26 in the Sporran (the pouch around the waist) Way more effective than a Claymore!
The knife is a dirk, a Sgian Dhubh, I have heard it sounded this way A Skin du.
When you wear a Kilt, the dirk is in the sock. Our family name on my Mothers side is Kelly, affiliated with the McDonald's.
Most now use a plastic replica, I use a real one, double edged when I wear the kilt, only done twice.
The last one I had the dirk in the sock, the Glock 26 in the Sporran (the pouch around the waist) Way more effective than a Claymore!
NavyLCDR
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Vector said:
http://www.fox16.com/news/local/sto...-Wedding-Shooting/nd4ZIh2HmEKI-A0RrfJLSg.cspx
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/16/national/main2579251.shtml
http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/local/brothers-sought-in-wedding-reception-shooting-20100829
http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/crime/man-convicted-in-wedding-party-shooting
This isn't a game of odds, Vector. It's a game of what's at stake.
I don't think anyone here is planning on a lethal force altercation with friends or family. Unless you plan on locking the doors to the chapel during the ceremony, anyone at all can come in with whatever their intentions may be. That is how I rationalize the different scenarios.
Oh, and in Kansas I don't have to worry about the beach very often.
I am not even going to bother looking at your links since you did not bother to take the time to answer my question.
I guess if you are married in a church that is considered a public place that has access. That said, what are the chances that weddings are typical places that lethal force will need to be used. As to you comment about the lack of a beach, what then of a trip to the water park or swimming pool? I use those examples only because they are presumably more dangerous, yet carrying is not practical. For that matter what do you do at sporting events where firearms are prohibited, yet there are tens of thousands of drunk and unruly strangers all packed together? You are obviously in a more dangerous situation, yet you are not armed.I don't think anyone here is planning on a lethal force altercation with friends or family. Unless you plan on locking the doors to the chapel during the ceremony, anyone at all can come in with whatever their intentions may be. That is how I rationalize the different scenarios.
Oh, and in Kansas I don't have to worry about the beach very often.
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NavyLT's links are news stories of wedding shootings, worth a look IMO.
The chances may be low, but they are there. That is where NavyLT's statement becomes pertinent. Your same argument has been made against carrying a gun anywhere at all. Just curious, do you carry a concealed handgun?
Sometimes due to circumstances or the law we do not carry a firearm, that does not mean we are unarmed. Your tactics may have to change but that topic has and should be discussed at length in another thread so as not to derail this one. Check out the S&T forum for many good discussions on the subject.
The chances may be low, but they are there. That is where NavyLT's statement becomes pertinent. Your same argument has been made against carrying a gun anywhere at all. Just curious, do you carry a concealed handgun?
Sometimes due to circumstances or the law we do not carry a firearm, that does not mean we are unarmed. Your tactics may have to change but that topic has and should be discussed at length in another thread so as not to derail this one. Check out the S&T forum for many good discussions on the subject.
NavyLCDR
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Vector said:
Vector said:
In a ziploc bag.
Vector said:
I don't rationalize scenarios. There are way too many irrational people out there.
There. I've answered your questions.
paintballdude902
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CCW at a wedding is the job of the best man.
he must carry 2 guns one for him and one for the groom
he must carry 2 guns one for him and one for the groom
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