Carrying in Church

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I take my S&W 5906 every time (remember that Colorado church).

Treo, im right there with you. Guns are important and all that but God takes the front seat.
 
I was asked to be a member of our security team here in Colorado Springs. After New Life, the church wanted to take no chances. I carry my 1911 under an my untucked shirt. Only members of the team know who is armed. We are all either present or former military and LEOs. The church sponsored a CCW class for anyone interested. From what I heard something like 10 or 15 people came. My decision to carry was a long one and included much thought and prayer as to how to best trust and obey God. But I feel that I was given permission to do so. Call me crazy but I know when God is speaking to me. If I can help defend the congregation from any evil I will do so willingly even to the point of giving my life.
 
I make it a habit of carrying everyday/everywhere, and that includes church service every Sunday. I carry my daily piece, the P11.

I'm happy to know that our pastor is an extremely gun friendly old fellow. Our church is loosely tied to New Life Church in the Springs where the shooting occurred a year ago. I used to not carry in church, but the very next Sunday after the shooting, I began a habit that continues to this day. In this day and age, you can't deny that these things can and probably will happen again. For some reason my church doesn't staff any security like New Life does, but I know that several members like me are packing and trained.
 
I think I have to agree with Treo on this one. If I truly believe that God is Sovereign and I truly believe that all things work together for the good to those that love the Lord. Then I truly have to place my life unreservedly in His hands.

Now I do carry in church and I do believe that I am called by God to do so But I also believe that God placed me in my church and only God can tell me it's time to go. To take it a step further my Pastor does NOT know that I carry so if he came to me and asked me not to carry I'd take it as a direct word from God.

To quote Treo once more I'd much rather be unarmed and IN the will of God than armed to the teeth and OUT of the will of God
 
I was anticipating another thread about the latest tragedy, but I'm glad to see this one brought back out. I will not, ever, make the mistake of not carrying in church. I care about those people too deeply not to offer my portion.

My church, oddly IMO, doesn't have any form of security detail. I'm part of the usher team, so I have reason to be standing, monitoring, moving through the crowd, directing people's movement, and I keep a conscious level of situational awareness. If I can keep an alert eye and spot something that is out of place or someone acting a bit too odd, that is the least I can offer.
 
One Sunday in a church I used to go to we were told, in the usher's meeting before church that there was a rumor that someone may try to rob the offering during service.

So service starts all the ushers are a little keyed up, in the middle of the offering (this church always preached about why you should give before actually passing the baskets) we hear a BANG, the back door of the Sanctuary opens and two guys rush in firing pistols.

Long story short it was a skit about how not paying your tithe is robbing God. Thank GOD no one in that church had a gun

The DUMBEST thing I have ever seen in a church
 
:scrutiny:They are so lucky there were no cops or CCW holders in attendance. There would be 2 dead role players and a lot of explanations to the families of the aggrieved. The preface of rumors of robberies would clear the shooters since they were told of the threat!
 
They are so lucky there were no cops or CCW holders in attendance.
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Actually a city police officer and a sheriff's deputy were in attendance but I think they were in on the "joke" and this WAS prior to "New Life"
 
I normally carry my Colt govt 380. It's little and goes right into an iwb holster that I position in the small of my back. But, I have also carried my High Standard Crusader Compact. It's big, but with the right shirt, I can pull it off.
 
Any "adult" who took part in that stunt is STUPID, period. Thank the Lord most adults are responsible enough, and wise enough, to know better.

I sincerely hope, and pray, those STUPID people cause no further harm to their families or other innocents.

That stunt was irresponsible and stupid, to say the least.
 
Why would carrying in a church be different than carrying anywhere else???? Unless you stupid state excludes it.... Nebraska.
 
Rockwell1......


That stunt will certainly have cost lives damn it :fire:

Churches need to STOP pulling these kinds of STUPID stunts.

That bang might be answered by return fire.

Ive already made a personal choice to carry in Church in the future... that is between me and God and Im at peace with it.

But these stunts MUST stop. It makes me angry to no end that these drama skits or whatever you call em must be run against a people unprepared or drilled to deal with something like this.
 
Churches need to STOP pulling these kinds of STUPID stunts
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While I agree with you, please note that I DID say this "stunt" occured pre New Life. I'm fairly certain no church would do anything like this today.
 
Point taken, I absorb and process the mock stunt and the rest of the words blurred on me.

Apologies. :banghead:
 
There was a recent shooting where a pastor was killed, he deflected the first bullet with his bible, the congregants thought it was a "stunt" at first, so he died with no assistance.

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/story/1073983.html

(Kansas newspaper, but it happened in the gun hating state of Illinios)


Our church has a Kindergarden, and I was told in CCW class that in Colorado you can't carry on any school property. I haven't sought a legal opinion on the matter
 
What's NEW LIFE?
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One of the largest churches in America ( located in Colorado Springs Colorado) the scene of a church shooting I THINK in Dec 2006 in which a man by the name of Mathew Murray opened fire in the church parking lot killing 3 people (including sisters Rachel & Stephanie Werks). Murray was shot inside the church by an armed private security guard named Jean Assam. Because Murray was wearing a ballistic vest and kevlar helmet Assam's shots didn't kill him, he killed himself when she approached him.
 
A Vested armored BG. Worst nightmare, however perfect for the Brennekes.

But I doubt that God will be so good as to allow me to bring Rem and company to his House.

Because of all this Ive started to think that perhaps it's time NOT to attend a unsecure Church and recieve his Word through prayer and worship from either the Internet or over the air on Satellite or Radio.

I dont know yet. But I feel that we are entering a future where Churches are going to be attractive to criminals.
 
Because of all this Ive started to think that perhaps it's time NOT to attend a unsecure Church and recieve his Word through prayer and worship from either the Internet or over the air on Satellite or Radio.
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Go to church - everyone needs a church family ... but continue to press the issue, and get vocal about it in your church. There may be a few others that agree with you.

BTW, how does AR define a place of worship? It seems that, based on the definition, the pastor could designate a small chapel or room as the 'official place of worship' and everywhere else as something else. Has anyone sought a legal opinion on this? Just a wild idea.
 
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