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Carrying while paintballing

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by zahc, Sep 29, 2003.

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  1. zahc

    zahc Member

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    hmm.

    In a couple weeks I'm going on an all out 36 hour flag scenerio game in the woods. Lots of woods. The flags are miles apart. It goes on nonstop even at night. So I'm going prepared with a compass, first aid, food, fire stuff, and ...

    hmm.

    I really like taking guns with me in the woods. To add scary material to the situation my local DNR guy claims they've been getting mountain lion sightings (most likely released pets).

    It's gonna be weird going without a gun.
     
  2. SodaPop

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    Would you bring it if you were scuba diving?

    What happens if you're running around the course and find out your gun fell out of the holster and somebody calls the police because they found a real gun on the paintball course?

    Leave it in your car.
     
  3. auschip

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    Is this a sanctioned event, or are you and a couple buddies just going to be playing in the woods? If it is a sanctioned event, a large portion of what you are planning to bring will not be allowed on the field. More information is required, but my gut reaction says that it should be left in the car.
     
  4. MJRW

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    It doesn't sound like a good idea to mix live, real, lethal firearms with live non-lethal weapons.
     
  5. zahc

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    I don't know about sanctioned, but it is an organized event, sort of a club deal on private preoperty, and pretty large in scope (dozens of people, local shop there selling paint and air etc.). All the things I mentioned (compass, first aid, food, fire stuff, folding saws) are allowed.
     
  6. gun-fucious

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    A smart mountain lion would backoff when meeting a hail of 68 caliber orbs at 20 RPS

    NO guns, knives, or tools allowed on field during any paintball event

    after 1 hour of 300 people tromping with full gear thru 100 acres,
    any wildlife is gonna be exiting stage left

    the flares and night fights will keep them at bay all evening

    What are you gonna do with a handgun,
    when you hear something stalking you?
    Pull it and plug a team member looking for a prop?
     
  7. zahc

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    20bps? I have a tippmann.

    You are not making the rules for this one.
     
  8. Pendragon

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    Sounds like a seriously bad idea to me.

    Even if you need your gun, with that many people, its pretty unsafe to just go shooting it off.

    I see a knife as more ok and I have heard of people fighting off mt lions with knives. Really though - mt lions got a few people in NorCal when I was there - but it was always unaware joggers - they have a serious chase instinct. I think that if you are just plodding through the woods, even if you see one, you stand tall, look big and stand your ground - they will usually leave.

    Having a live gun in an even that is about shooting people with fake guns just gives me the willys.

    I think that since guns are probably not allowed (I assume), that you should respect the land owner and your club and either go without one or stay home. Bringing one is a lot more likely to put a mark on your club and make the land owner never allow this event again. Ohh - wouldnt you like to be THAT guy :what:
     
  9. MJRW

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    Well then, zahc, why did you ask if when someone states a position all you do is tell them they aren't making the rules? Fine, carry. Shoot that mountain lion sneaking up on you with all the ruckus. Mountain lions are notorious for attacking paintballers.

    Is that more in line with what you are looking for?
     
  10. Keith

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    In Ohio? The only emergency gear you need is a cell phone to order pizza!

    Keith
     
  11. zahc

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    I'm sorry but gun-fucious' post was unclear.

    He didn't say "I think Guns...should not be allowed" he said

    Like he was the ultimate authority and made all the rules. It seemed arrogant, and I put him back in his place.

    I will not carry. Wasn't going to. I was mostly pointing out a situation in which carry is a bad idea (better than the nudist camp one).

    Gun-fucious' post seemed to me a little hostile.
     
  12. gun-fucious

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    sorry, dood

    i play on a sponsored Scenario Team and i have a sport to protect

    let me clarify

    No MXS, VIPER, Blackcat, Waynes or other "real deal" scenario event will permit weapons on the field. Mother & Bobby from MXS won't allow costume wooden swords on the field.

    There are quite a few games left in the season:
    http://www.scenariopaintballcalendar.com/

    Insured Paintball fields do not permit weapons on the field
     
  13. auschip

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    The odds are very good, that these will not be allowed. The reason behind that, is the insurance fields must carry. I would be happy to look into it a bit more for you, but I have only found info for one scenario going on in OH during October, and that one they do not allow any of the items you are refering to on the field (a Black Cat scenario held in Youngstown on Oct. 11th & 12th. Anyway, hope you have fun.
     
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    :confused: "Released pets"? You can have a mountain lion for a pet in Ohio?
     
  15. Vitamin G

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    gun-fuchious, what sponsored team do you play on? I play on Close Call (now Punisherspb.com) in the PSP 5man.
     
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    Lock it in the car.

    If I found a gun on the field during play I would call a halt to the whole evolution, just like I would if I found a single round of live ammo in a miles-gear exercise.
     
  18. Oleg Volk

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    Why not carry a backup in deep concealment. Drawing it would require enough thought that an accidental deployment wo't be an issue. No one would know, unless every player gets frisked...in which case, that's not a friendly event.
     
  19. Jeff White

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    Never, Never , Never....

    Never under any circumstances carry a casualty producing weapon or ammunition while working with any force on force scenario!

    It dosen't matter if it's paintball, airsoft, MILES, FATS or laser tag. The chances of a tragic accident are too great to chance it. It hasn't been but about a year ago since a Force Recon Marine was killed in a training exercise where live ammuntion was present along with blanks. Murphy lives. If it can happen to these highly trained Marines who had all kinds of SOPs in place that are designed to prevent that from happening, it can happen to you.

    Deep concealment doesn't get you anything. If it's in deep enough concealment that accidental presentation isn't a problem, you'll most likely dig it out in advance if you sense a threat. The accidental presentation is a problem. How many threats do you expect to meet out there? What kind of threats? Are they going to be sufficiently different and present themselves to you with enough notice that you'll have time to switch from your paintball gun to your real gun? I really don't think so.

    I have seen the barrel blown off an M16 when it was fired with a blank adapter on when live ammo was mixed with blanks. Fortunately no one was injured. Even though the BFA is designed to blow off, the flash suppressor was gone along with a bit of barrel.

    It's just about one of the most unsafe things you can do.

    Jeff
     
  20. Oleg Volk

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    I defer to Jeff's practical experience.
     
  21. Black92LX

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    dude sounds awesome i want to play.
     
  22. bogie

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    If you're gonna be playing with shootin' at folks, make sure that ANYTHING that's in the area is non-lethal. What if you fall down? Drop the thing? Some doofus picks it up, sez, "hey, this looks cool - almost real!" and points it at you and yanks the trigger before you can scream at him that it _is_ real?
     
  23. gun-fucious

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    here i am, after a gernade landed in my lap
    while i was riding in a tank.

    it actually came in through a 2 inch rubber bladed slot in the door

    stuff happens!
     

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    What a HGUELY BAD IDEA to bring live / real firearms to an event / venue involving non-lethal firearms. Recipe for DISASTER.


    And sodapop - duh. Lanyard.
     
  25. El Tejon

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    Mountain lions? You're kidding, right?

    A very bad idear to mix real and pretend, see, e.g. a hundred examples for THR and TFL.

    If you are worried about pumas, I would try outsmarting them like Bugs Bunny (oh, three or four) or using magic pixie dust which works for bears, unicorns and mountain lions.:D

    Edit to add: my only experience with mountain lions is in reality of their non-existence. I wear Pumas to boxing so I know how tricksy they can be.:scrutiny:
     
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