The only problem (its a BIG one though) is the mix of alcohol and firearms on a college campus.
And, did you also know, for people not in college there are… bars! Alcohol and firearms are not a good idea, but non-college students are just as susceptible to this kind of situation as anyone else.
I have been in a few situations fueled by alcohol (none of them my fault, always a buddy or someone else, but thats beside the point) and know of several others, and having guns present would have most likely ended very badly. People make poor decisions when under the influence, people get upset easier, get into fights easier. Being able to pull out a handgun because you are drunk and pissed off at someone is not gonna end well...and it wouldn't be happening every 5 seconds, but it would happen.
As some have said earlier, this seems like another cry of “blood in the streets”. This could happen to ANYONE, ANYWHERE! Even "adults". I don’t think that the students going out and applying for carry permits are representative of that "heavy drinking" population. They tend to be more mature and responsible, and are obviously thinking about their security, and the responsibility that does along with it.
I could see allowing CCW on campuses if you limited it to certain hours during the week and on the weekend or something along those lines, so that guns are not as readily available when kids are partying on the weekends, but just all out, no restriction CCW probably wouldn't be the best of ideas.
Again, I hope you are ready to do this for ALL CITIZENS! College students are NOT, and I repeat, NOT any different than any other adult. The state government has decided they are able to possess a weapon, and a permit to carry one. What more do you need? They are adults like anyone else, and are held to the same standards. They have no less responsibility for having a handgun and permit just because they are “in college”.
Dorm walls must be thick enough to contain an ND, or firearms may not be stored there.
This is ludicrous. I’m sure the walls in your home are probably not thick enough to stop a ND or rare AD. A college student dumb enough to let one happen can live with the consequences, just as you would in a similar situation in your home.
If a student is caught on campus with a BAC above 0.02 while carrying or handling a loaded firearm the student will be expelled, no questions asked. However now criminal charges will be filed as long as no actual crime was committed.
Expelled!? Are you kidding? Again, handgun laws should not be different just because they are college students. They are citizens just like you! All state laws regarding carry regulations must be followed by everyone. To separate out certain demographics is just wrong. We do not need gun laws to be any more complicated! Then it will be no one over 40 can carry, because their eyesight is going bad. Or no one with this kind of neurological disease can carry, or no one at risk of alcoholism can carry, etc. It is a very slippery slope!
I do demand the same of everyone. With exception to the thickness of the walls for an ND, that is due to the extreme closeness of on campus student living quarters.
Non-college students also live in… apartments.
Lets regulate them too! /Sarcasm off.
Are you allowed to have alcohol on the actual campus? I don't think so. 'Might want to look at that first.
Yes! My university allows anyone over the age of 21 to have alcohol in their dorms! They are limited to a 6-pack per person, no kegs. But it is interesting they recognize their age and ability to drink, yet deny these very same people the right to carry on campus, and their dorms!
I’m sorry I get so fired up about this, but I am a college student. I believe, if a student in going to carry with a permit, they must be willing to accept the responsibilities that go with it. They are adults, and should not be babied because they are in college. Laws do not just govern college students, once they are adults, or rather old enough to get a carry permit, the laws apply to them as they do everyone else. Alcohol, idiocy, etc. are all things that are just as applicable to any non-college student carrying a firearm. So many of us here are for concealed carry, and upholding the 2nd Amendment, yet it amazed me how many scrutinize college students as if they were any different from anyone else. Don’t they have the right to carry? The government says they do! Why should “special” laws apply to them? That is discrimination in the most blatant form.