Charge Stopper on African Lion

[Telum Pisces]

There are reason double shot big bore guns are used!!!! if you don't get it on that second shot, it's too late. All the charges I've seen of dangerous game shows the second shot leveling the animal at their feet. What would one more round do with the animal on top of you likely the gun in another place too after being attacked!!!

Shotgun slugs dump a lot of energy into a shallow thin skinned animal! Hit a thicker skinned dangerous game and well, think of the equivalent of being shot with a Bullet proof vest made of soft armor. It's going to hurt like hell and probably piss you off!

But it's not getting into those vitals or CNS areas to make the stop.

 

[Hog huntin Harry]

While 12 gauge slugs, brenneke in particular are quite impressive, I would rather have a double rifle chambered in 30-30 loaded with 170 grain Nosler Partitions than a SxS 12 gauge with slugs of any flavor short of copper sabots. If I could choose I would use a .378 WM loaded with .300 grain Nosler Partitions.

 

[Ugly Sauce]

I agree, but I think I'd take a couple of 180 round nosed bullets, over the No$ler magic bullets. 180's meant for a faster stepping cartridge (most 180RN's would be intended for the '06 or .308) would really have some nice controlled and limited expansion at .30WCF velocity. Sometimes the front of a Nosler expands too fast and then just shears off, (especially at short range) and then you have a real light short-shanked bullet to carry on.

 

[DM~]

Sometimes the front of a Nosler expands too fast and then just shears off, (especially at short range) and then you have a real light short-shanked bullet to carry on.

Thing is, that short shank works like a solid and it really drives in deep, and because it's frontal area isn't huge, it drives in extra deep...

I like the way the front of a NP expands so fast, that means it will work at low velocity and also on smaller animals. Also, it really dumps a lot of energy to give a lot of internal tissue damage.

Since the 70's when I started using NP's, I've recovered very few of them, and that's just fine with me.

DM

 

[Jim Watson]

Teddy Roosevelt liked the .405 Winchester even though he had a .500-.450 N.E and a .450-.400.

I read an article about Alaskan guides and their several varieties of .40, .404, .411, and .416 bear rifles which they tended to load with 300-350 gr bullets instead of the traditional 400 grain safari loads.

But the closest I'll ever get to a lion is the University of North Alabama's mascot. They are now up to Leo III.