Those are very interesting. I have a Beretta Model 21 which I got from a co-worker who was selling his MiL's guns for her
Cheap Pistol
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lysanderxiii
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There is "inexpensive," and there is "cheap."
I tend to stay away from "cheap."
I tend to stay away from "cheap."
someguy2800
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I am a bit of a ruger fanboy but even I will freely admit that most of ruger's firearms are cheap. Cheap in price, and cheap in construction. However when I say cheap I don't mean poor quality. I think ruger does a better job of making a cheap gun than anyone in the US, and they do so with manufacturing efficiency such as MIM parts, rather than skimping and making poor quality stamped or plastic parts. They have mastered making a rock solid gun inexpensive, which is why I own 7 ruger semi auto's, 3 revolvers, and 2 rifles. There are some really awesome guns made in eastern europe and turkey that are also really cheap because their labor cost are low and in turkey's case their currency has crashed.
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I love my Rugers! and I trust Ruger. Customer service is #1! but most American gun companies stand by their name! I’m looking into a Ruger Standard (mint) for $275 and a LCP. I wish LCP Max would have a manual safety
OrangePwrx9
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Gotta be careful here in NY. They put you thru...uh...heck whenever you add to your CCL. Getting rid of something you don't want can be bad too. So just 'picking up' something cheap because it tickles your interest really isn't an option.
That said, there's some good stuff to be had for not too much:
1) the original S&W Shield - got one of those a month ago, surprised how good the trigger is
2) Ruger P-series - as stated before. Got a P89 on hold at a LGS. Will buy it if OK. My P90 is a tank.
3) Charter Arms Undercovers - been singing their praises for a few years now. Wouldn't want to see a nice S&W snubbie in an evidence locker...would we?
4) Last Gen S&W SAs. - like the 3913 or 5906. Like the Ruger P-series; take a lickin', keep on ticken.
5) not a 1911 guy, but the Tisas really appeals to me.
That said, there's some good stuff to be had for not too much:
1) the original S&W Shield - got one of those a month ago, surprised how good the trigger is
2) Ruger P-series - as stated before. Got a P89 on hold at a LGS. Will buy it if OK. My P90 is a tank.
3) Charter Arms Undercovers - been singing their praises for a few years now. Wouldn't want to see a nice S&W snubbie in an evidence locker...would we?
4) Last Gen S&W SAs. - like the 3913 or 5906. Like the Ruger P-series; take a lickin', keep on ticken.
5) not a 1911 guy, but the Tisas really appeals to me.
gc70
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A little reflection on "cheap" and "inexpensive."
Sig produced the renowned P49/P210 for the Swiss military and police between 1949 and 1975. The P210 was a top quality gun, but it required a lot of precise milling and was costly to produce.
In 1975, Sig introduced the P75/P220 to replace the P210. The P220's production costs were reduced by locking the barrel on the slide's ejection port so locking grooves did not have to be milled in the slide and barrel and eliminating complex and costly slide milling by forming the slide from folded sheet metal with a welded-on nose and pinning the breech mechanism in the slide. The P220 design resulted in substantially cutting production costs.
In the early 1990s, Sig purchased CNC milling machines for its US operation. The new CNC technology allowed milled slides to be produced for less than the former folded sheet metal slides and the cheaper technology was also more precise and consistent.
Sig's metal-framed guns have a reputation for quality ... largely based on products using cost-cutting designs and production technologies. Inexpensive, cheap, or extremely cost-conscious?
Sig produced the renowned P49/P210 for the Swiss military and police between 1949 and 1975. The P210 was a top quality gun, but it required a lot of precise milling and was costly to produce.
In 1975, Sig introduced the P75/P220 to replace the P210. The P220's production costs were reduced by locking the barrel on the slide's ejection port so locking grooves did not have to be milled in the slide and barrel and eliminating complex and costly slide milling by forming the slide from folded sheet metal with a welded-on nose and pinning the breech mechanism in the slide. The P220 design resulted in substantially cutting production costs.
In the early 1990s, Sig purchased CNC milling machines for its US operation. The new CNC technology allowed milled slides to be produced for less than the former folded sheet metal slides and the cheaper technology was also more precise and consistent.
Sig's metal-framed guns have a reputation for quality ... largely based on products using cost-cutting designs and production technologies. Inexpensive, cheap, or extremely cost-conscious?
CajunBass
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I've remembered a couple of "cheap" guns I've purchased recently. Don't know why I didn't think of them earlier.
I caught a sale at Sportsman's Warehouse on the Walther PPK/S in 22 LR. They're the "Fort Smith" PPK/s's with the aluminum alloy (Zmack) frame and slide, but that's plenty good enough for a 22. Not as pretty as the old Walthers of course, but I got one for about $300 out the door last spring. So that's no 1970's price, but 2022. Good, fun little gun. Very reliable with the right ammo (CCI Mini-Mags and Stingers) but will choke on my stash of Federal bulk pack ammo I got from Wally World 10-20 years ago, from time to time. No problem really. I just save the bulk pack for the range, and use the "good stuff" for whatever "serious use" I might put a 22 too. (Comes threaded for a suppressor if that's your thing.)
Another 22 I got recently, that I'm sure others have mentioned is a Heritage Rough Rider. My wife saw this one and wanted it because it was "cute." About $140.00. A decent little gun.
These are probably the modern version of the old Harrington and Richardson revolvers from my youth.
I caught a sale at Sportsman's Warehouse on the Walther PPK/S in 22 LR. They're the "Fort Smith" PPK/s's with the aluminum alloy (Zmack) frame and slide, but that's plenty good enough for a 22. Not as pretty as the old Walthers of course, but I got one for about $300 out the door last spring. So that's no 1970's price, but 2022. Good, fun little gun. Very reliable with the right ammo (CCI Mini-Mags and Stingers) but will choke on my stash of Federal bulk pack ammo I got from Wally World 10-20 years ago, from time to time. No problem really. I just save the bulk pack for the range, and use the "good stuff" for whatever "serious use" I might put a 22 too. (Comes threaded for a suppressor if that's your thing.)
Another 22 I got recently, that I'm sure others have mentioned is a Heritage Rough Rider. My wife saw this one and wanted it because it was "cute." About $140.00. A decent little gun.
These are probably the modern version of the old Harrington and Richardson revolvers from my youth.
Explain please. Is that just for your CCL "list" or does that count for every handgun you own?
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A Star BM
Still under $300….while they last
Still under $300….while they last
Buckeye63
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good inexpensive pistol.. I purchased this one when they first switched the name from PT-111 to G2C
I have zero complaints on this pistol.. actually being carried today
I dermaled the pinky extension off of this mag …
This little gun has never had a hiccup.. with ammo that has ran through it
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SLICK!!
OrangePwrx9
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Every handgun owned. As far as NY is concerned, every handgun I own can be carried concealed...at least that's my understanding. Could carry a Super 14 Contender concealed if I figured out how to do it.
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doubleh
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Rosssi no longer shows any 22 rimfire revolver on their website. I agree the Plinker 22 is a much better piece of machinery than the RR or wrangler but it will have to be used to get one.
